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Det finns de som försöker skylla den aktuella krisen på euron.
Peter Wolodarski, DN 2010-05-02


Daily Telgraph about Greece


Greklands kris
Euron hänger på en skör tråd
Trevlig bild DN 7/5 2010


Grekland står på randen av statsbankrutt.
EU:s valutaunion har visat att den inte håller måttet.

Att EU:s valutaunion spricker är inte realistiskt, men
att det ”otänkbara” faktiskt diskuteras säger åtskilligt om allvaret.
Signerat, Claes Arvidsson, SvD 7/5 2010


Is the crisis coming back?
After the downgrading of Ireland by S&P, Irish sovereign bond spreads rose from 318bp to 344bp to level higher than before May, and even Greece spreads are now back at close to 10%, the level before the agreement on the EFSF. This means that the European rescue package have failed to calm down the market stress that triggered on those package in the first place.
There was further bad news from the US, where existing home sales declined by a record amount for July, giving rise to expectations of another decline in US house prices.
As ever, Calculated Risk has the best coverage of this.
The Wall Street Journal says in a comment that even a downturn to annualised growth rates of under 2% will feel like a recession.
In a 2% economy, there won’t be any job creation, or wage increases.
Eurointelligence 25/8 2010

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Greece
Banks had lost 8pc of their entire deposit base in the five months to May
Households and companies are running down savings to make ends meet
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 19 Aug 2010

Greek lenders are covering their funding gap through loans from the European Central Bank (ECB), which reached a record €96bn in July.

The green light from Brussels failed to offer any respite for Greek bonds. Spreads on 10-year Greek debt rose to 835 basis points over German debt. They are trading once again at the crisis levels of early May, before the EU launched its "shock and awe" rescue and the ECB began purchasing Greek bonds.

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The Euro Crisis
Entering a Death Spiral?
Tensions Rise in Greece as Austerity Measures Backfire
The austerity measures that were supposed to fix Greece's problems are dragging down the country's economy. Stores are closing, tax revenues are falling
Der Spiegel 18/8 2010

The entire country is in the grip of a depression. Everything seems to be going downhill. The spiral is continuing unabated, and there is no clear way out. The worse part, however, is the fact that hardly anyone still hopes that things will improve one day.

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In May, the EU and the IMF agreed to loan Greece 110bn euros over three years.
A 9bn-euros loan is due to be given to Greece on 13 September, and is dependent upon the government meeting progress targets.
BBC 5 August 2010

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Grekland går inte i konkurs den 13 september

Rolf Englund blog 5/8 2010

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Hungary's IMF revolt augurs ill for Greece
"Austerity is extremely hard to sell to electorates.
The risk is that this moves from a wider financial and economic crisis to a European political crisis as governments are punished by voters.
The approval rating for Lithuanian's prime minister has fallen to 7pc."
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 19 July 2010


Det största problemet:
har risken för att exempelvis Grekland ställer in betalningarna verkligen lagts in i testerna på ett ärligt sätt?
Enligt Financial Times har marknaderna tagit höjd för förluster på 60 procent på grekiska statsobligationer – medan regleringsorganen har sagt åt bankerna att räkna med 17 procent.
DN-ledare, signerad Gunnar Jonsson, 20 juli 2010


Alan Beattie bevakar internationell handel för Financial times.
Han tror helt enkelt inte att Grekland kommer lyckas få sin ekonomi att växa samtidigt som de genomför massiva besparingar.
Och när de inser det om ett halvår eller ett år så blir en skuldavskrivning den enda möjliga lösningen.
Och det här räknar finansmarknaderna med säger Alan Beattie, Ekot 16/7 2010

Franska, spanska och tyska banker skulle kunna få hjälp från den nyskapade europeiska räddningsfonden.

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Alla kan inte exportera sig ur krisen, för då är det ingen som köper.
Grekland och Spanien måste skära ned drastiskt, inget annat kan återställa finansmarknadernas förtroende.
Tyskland ska ha ordning på statsfinanserna, men ....
DN-ledare 29 juni 2010

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The snag with Germany’s idea (insolvency rules)is that it goes too far
It is hard to see how such a plan could be imposed, let alone enforced. It would place the debtor nation in a position of colonial submission.
If ever agreed to, this would be politically explosive.
FT editorial July 13 2010


The Folly of Currency Pegs
Notwithstanding the highly touted Greek rescue package
Greece will probably default on its debt sometime within the next year

John H. Makin (May 2010


Moody's cuts Greece to junk
The rating agency warns that a $1 trillion bailout package may not be enough.
CNN June 14, 2010

Moody's cut its rating on Greek debt four notches to Ba1, a speculative rating that the firm says connotes "questionable" credit quality.

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ECB Buying Up Greek Bonds
German Central Bankers Suspect French Conspiracy
gives French banks the perfect opportunity to get rid of their Greek assets
Der Spiegel 31 May 2010


Grekland, Spanien och grunderna i macro
Rolf Englund blog 2010-05-29


Greece is implementing a sweeping austerity plan.
But the underlying maths of its fiscal problems – with its public debt to gross domestic product forecast to hit 150 per cent – makes it extremely hard to believe that Greece will really fix its woes before the aid runs out.
Gillian Tett, FT May 27 2010

Slightly more than two weeks ago, eurozone leaders and the International Monetary Fund unveiled a €750bn ($920bn) package that, in effect, guarantees that Greece will be funded for the next couple of years. That pot is also big enough to cover Portugal and Spain, if those countries needed aid.

So far, so good. But what is crucially unclear is what happens after that point.
Right now, of course, Greece is implementing a sweeping austerity plan. But the underlying maths of its fiscal problems – with its public debt to gross domestic product forecast to hit 150 per cent – makes it extremely hard to believe that Greece will really fix its woes before the aid runs out.

So the worry for Greek bondholders today is that they are now becoming subordinate to the IMF and the eurozone, but without any guarantee that this bail-out will work.

Hence the concern that this game will eventually result in a restructuring.

If so, just how big might any haircuts be?

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SNS, Pagrotsky och Greklands återhämtning
Rolf Englund blog 2010-05-28


IMF-rapport varnar
Givet att Grekland ingår i eurosamarbetet är en devalvering inte en möjlig utväg för landet.
Tjänstemännen bedömer i rapporten att Greklands "effektiva växelkurs", inom eurosamarbetet, är övervärderad med upp till 30 procent,
och denna övervärdering måste pressas ut ur den grekiska ekonomin i en "lång och smärtsam process"
Washington Post/DI 12 maj 2010


Ländernas konkurrenskraft har också betydelse för valutans stabilitet.
DN huvudledare 7/5 2010

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The European Cental Bank's bailout package is just a $1 trillion fig leaf covering the problem and
a better move would have been to arrange for Greece and Portugal to leave the European Union
, Kenneth Rogoff, professor of economics and public policy at Harvard, told CNBC Friday 14/5 2010


Deutsche-Bank-Chef Ackermann: Greece won’t repay all of its debt
there is no alternative to helping Greece because otherwise the eurozone would have melted down
Eurointelligence 14/5 2010

We do not know quite what Deutsche Bank is up to, but the bank has been very forthright, about the Greek situation. In a German talk show, Josef Ackerman said that Greece won’t repay all of its debt, and that rescheduling was very likely

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But he also added that there is no alternative to helping Greece because otherwise the eurozone would have melted down.

The best course of action to take is to push through austerity now, and if this is not enough, to restructure and to reschedule debt, according to Der Spiegel.

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Finanskrisens härjningar. Kronans svängningar. Greklands ekonomiska kaos.
Plötsligt har euron blivit het inför valet.
Sydsvenskan har talat med alla de fyra borgerliga partiledarna.
De är djupt oeniga i fråga om folkomröstning.
Fredrik Reinfeldt anger två villkor för att han ska lova en folkomröstning.
Sydsvenskan 3 april 2010



Greek crisis exposes default lines running through the eurozone
Initially, it was thought that the eurozone would not be subject to such market brutality /as in 1992/ because, in complete contrast to the ERM, once countries have joined the euro, there is no exchange rate against which speculators can take out positions.
Roger Bootle, Daily Telegraph 2 May 2010


IMFs dödsdom över Grekland och EU:s räddningspaket
Rolf Englund blog 2010-05-12


Grekpaketet handlar om bankstöd och imperiebyggande.
Rolf Englund blog 2010-05-10

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Ett intressant inlägg kommer från tankesmedjan Bruegel i Bryssel. I rapporten ”Two crises, two responses” skriver ekonomerna André Sapir och Jean Pisani-Ferry om stora och viktiga skillnader mellan de krisdrabbade ekonomierna. Som exempel tar de Grekland och Spanien, två länder med olika typer av problem som varken kan eller bör lösas på samma sätt.
DN 7/5 2010


Varför reagerade ingen i Bryssel?
Det var ett allvarligt misstag. I EU:s korridorer talades det öppet om det grekiska fusket under många år.
2004 inledde EU-kommissionen ett rättsligt förfarande rörande falska rapporter, som aldrig fullföljdes.
DN 7/5 2010

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Mrs Merkel made a moving plea to the Bundestag to support the €110bn (£93bn) rescue for Greece.
"Nothing less than the future of Europe is at stake. The happy tale of German history since World War Two and our emergence as a free, united, and strong country cannot be separated from the European Union.
We owe decades of peace and prosperity to the understanding of our neighbours," she said.
Daily Telegraph 6/5 2010


To Angela Merkel and Germany’s political class, the state elections in North-Rhine Westphalia are infinitely more important than the future of the eurozone.
The opinion polls seem to support this attitude. Greek aid is unbelievably unpopular, with 86 per cent opposed according to a poll published last Sunday.
Come to think of it, there are not many issues in a democracy on which 86 per cent of the people agree on.
Wolfgang Münchau, Eurointelligence 29/4 2010


The “c” word: Contagion
Is Europe facing a ‘Bear Stearns’ moment?
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A bail-out for Greece is just the beginning
It is overtly a rescue of Greece, but covertly a bail-out of banks.
Martin Wolf, May 4 2010

Given the huge fiscal retrenchment now planned and the absence of exchange rate or monetary policy offsets, Greece is likely to find itself in a prolonged slump.

Would structural reform do the trick? Not unless it delivers a huge fall in nominal unit labour costs, since Greece will need a prolonged surge in net exports to offset the fiscal tightening. The alternative would be a huge expansion in the financial deficit of the Greek private sector. That seems inconceivable.

Moreover, if nominal wages did fall, the debt burden would become worse than forecast.

The crises now unfolding confirm the wisdom of those who saw the euro as a highly risky venture. These shocks are not that surprising. On the contrary, they could have been expected. The fear that yoking together such diverse countries would increase tension, rather than reduce it, also appears vindicated: look at the surge of anti-European sentiment inside Germany.

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How do America and Greece compare?
Both nations have lately been running large budget deficits, roughly comparable as a percentage of G.D.P
Greece is caught in a trap. Having your own currency, it seems, makes a big difference.
Paul Krugman, NYT May 13, 2010

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Satsa på en hästkur av samma kraft som Lettland!
Den Atenska smittan kan sprida sig och få förfärliga effekter
Från svensk horisont är det inte så mycket annat att göra än att hoppas
PJ Anders Linder, SvD 2 maj 2010

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Den grekiska budgetkrisen har nått en kulmen.
EU reagerade på krisen som om den vore den första lånekris som någonsin inträffat.
Redan idag kan vi se kraven – och önskemålen – på att EU-samarbetet fördjupas. Här bör Sverige vara med fullt ut.
Olle Schmidt (fp) och Wolf Klinz (FDP) samt folkpartiets talesperson för ekonomi- och näringspolitik,
Carl B Hamilton, SvD Brännpunkt 30 april 2010

Från att euron infördes som gemensam valuta har både anhängare och skeptiker sett problemet med att penning- och skattepolitiken inte är helgjutet konstruerad. Penningpolitiken överfördes till europeiska centralbanken medan skattepolitiken hör till medlemsstaternas kompetenssfär. I avsaknad av en gemensam skattepolitik antog man inom EU istället den så kallade stabilitets- och tillväxtpakten. Pakten har en ensidig inriktning på offentliga finanser. Andra aspekter som finansiell stabilitet och konkurrenskraft finns bara med indirekt.

Redan idag kan vi se kraven – och önskemålen – på att EU-samarbetet fördjupas. Här bör Sverige vara med fullt ut. Annars kommer Sverige att förlora än mer i inflytande.

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Framöver ställer krisen frågan om en valutaunion är möjlig utan gemensam finanspolitik.
Gunnar Jonsson Signerat DN 2010-04-29

Det är målsättningen om ett ständigt fastare förbund - "ever closer union" - som är själva grundbultsfelet med EU.
Rolf Englund Barometerns website 7/6 2005

Europe stumbles upon closer union
The giant currency union has bound 16 European Union states into a monetary bloc. The member countries, however, remain sovereign states with control over their own taxes and spending.
If it organises a rescue of Greece, the EU will cross a political Rubicon, heading towards a more complete union.
Financial Times editorial, February 12 2010

Tio års test av euron visar att domedagsprofetiorna kommit på skam.
Under krisen har euron visat sig vara en trygg hamn för euroländerna, och en tillflyktsort globalt.
Carl B Hamilton blog 8 februari 2010

Carl B Hamilton

EMU:s första dödsoffer
Tre döda i grekisk bankbrand
Publicerat: kl 13:41, 5/5 2010 Ekot, Uppdaterad: 15:01

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BBC: In pictures: Greece protests

EMU, tre döda och DN manar: Kör hårt
Rolf Englund blog 2010-05-06

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And that’s why a devaluation would help Greece — it wouldn’t reduce the need for fiscal adjustment, but it would reduce the costs associated with fiscal adjustment.
As I argued yesterday, this difference is an important reason why Britain, with a primary deficit as large as Greece’s, isn’t in anything like the same amount of trouble.
Paul Kruman, May 1st 2010


Vem har rätt? Krugman eller Carl B Hamilton?
Rolf Englund blog 1 maj 2010


Den franska storbanken BNP Paribas har en exponering mot grekiska statsobligationer på 5 miljarder euro (49 miljarder kronor).
E24 6/5 2010

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European governments are hoping that Greece’s 110 billion-euro bailout will stop a crisis that Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz says threatens the currency’s survival.
European Central Bank council member Axel Weber today warned about the “threat of grave contagion” as investors speculate that Spain and Portugal may also need aid.
Bloomberg 5/5 2010

While Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero dismissed such talk as “complete madness” yesterday, the risk premium on his country’s 10-year bonds rose to 126 basis points today. Spain’s benchmark IBEX Index, the euro region’s worst performer this year after Greece, fell 1 percent, extending yesterday’s 5.4 percent drop. Portugal’s spread increased to 270 basis points.

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De övriga euroländernas finansministrar planerar ett möte på söndag för att ta ställning till
ett förslag till överenskommelse om nedskärningar utan tidigare motstycke.
Ekot 30 april 2010 med bra länkar

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Acropolis now
Europe's sovereign-debt crisis
The Greek debt crisis is spreading.
The Economist print 29/4 2010

There comes a moment in many debt crises when events spiral out of control. As panic sets in, bond yields lurch sickeningly upwards and fear spreads to shares and currencies.

In September 2008 the failure of once-stellar Lehman Brothers almost brought down the world’s banking system. A decade earlier, Russia’s chaotic default on its sovereign debt rocked the credit markets, felling Long Term Capital Management, a hugely profitable American hedge fund. When the unthinkable suddenly becomes the inevitable, without pausing in the realm of the improbable, then you have contagion.

The Greek crisis—or more properly Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis—looks dangerously close to that

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Fotnot
Acopcalypse now

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ECB Drops Minimum Rating Threshold for Greek Collateral: QE Next?
The ECB decided to remove the BBB-rating threshold for Greek collateral on May 3, in contrast to prior statements that the ECB would not apply different eligibility rules for different countries.
Roubini 6 May 2010

When the ECB Governing Council meets on May 6, the bank's head, Jean-Claude Trichet, will have to explain the U-turn on collateral rules and lay out the organization's future strategy. Options include resuming longer-term refinancing operations; cutting rates from 1% and starting quantitative easing by buying government bonds in the secondary market.

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“The unthinkable -- that the ECB would not accept sovereign securities from a member as collateral --
has become a measurable risk, and one exclusively controlled by Moody’s,” Nielsen said. Moody’s is now the “de factor decision maker on Greek eligibility.”
Bloomberg 18 december 2009


SOME REALLY BAD NEWS FROM GREECE – OPPOSITION DECIDES TO VOTE AGAINST THE DEAL
The EU/IMF deal will find a majority in the Greek parliament but last night’s decision by Antonis Samaras, leader of the opposition New Democracy, to vote against the IMF/EU package destroys any hopes of a lasting consensus for reform.
Eurointelligence 5.05.2010

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Vem ska i så fall betala den avskrivningen, är det skattebetalarna i euroländerna?

– Det ska de som äger grekiska obligationer göra, de som dumdristigt har köpt dem till alltför höga priser och alltför låga räntor. Det gäller då framför allt banker i södra och centrala Europa, säger Åslund.
Ekot 30 april 2010


Om ingenting görs åt Grekland illa kvickt går landet i konkurs.
I så fall kommer Portugal och Spanien likaså att tvingas ställa in sina betalningar, vilket inte alls är nödvändigt.
Då kollapsar en stor del av det europeiska banksystemet.
Europa skulle till och med kunna hamna i ny stor depression.
Anders Åslund DN Debatt 30/4 2010

Den enda fördelen med den aktuella situationen är att katastrofen är lika monumental som uppenbar. Till att börja med måste Europa sluta att förneka verkligheten och se den i vitögat.

Gråt inte för Grekland utan för Lettland, som varit ett dygdemönster.

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Grekland: Tiden börjar rinna ut
Om åtstramningen går att klara, dödar den i så fall tillväxten?
Gunnar Jonsson Signerat DN 2010-04-29

The EU-IMF "therapy" of deflation for Greece repeats the catastrophic errors of Chancellor Heinrich Bruning in the early 1930s and must lead to a depression, he said.
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 25 Apr 2010

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Den 9 maj är det val i Tysklands största delstat Nordrhein-Westfalen med 18 miljoner invånare.
Händelsevis har eurozonens ledare nu bestämt datum för ett toppmöte om Grekland till dagen efter valet.
Gunnar Jonsson Signerat DN 2010-04-29

Tyskland

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Framöver ställer krisen frågan om en valutaunion är möjlig utan gemensam finanspolitik.
Gunnar Jonsson Signerat DN 2010-04-29

Det är målsättningen om ett ständigt fastare förbund - "ever closer union" - som är själva grundbultsfelet med EU. Rolf Englund Barometerns website 7/6 2005

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What about an outright default? How bad could it be?
Well, it would be big. Bigger than Russia's 1998 default and Argentina's 2001 default put together, in fact.
Robert Plummer, BBC 28/4

So what are the possible scenarios? Can Greece find an exit strategy or is it just forestalling disaster?

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Spaniens externa nettoskuld är fem gånger så stor som Greklands.
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This is going to be the most important week in the 11-year history of Europe’s monetary union.
By the end of it we will know whether the Greek fiscal crisis can be contained or whether it will metastasise to other parts of the eurozone.
What we are seeing here is Europe’s equivalent of the US subprime crisis. Unless we hear some implausibly good news from Athens by Friday, it will soon blow up.
Wolfgang Münchau, FT April 25 2010

Under existing law Greece cannot be pushed out. In fact Greece cannot leave the eurozone voluntarily, without having to leave the EU as well. In any case, it is smarter for Greece to default inside the eurozone than outside. So what happens if the Bundestag blocks the aid? Greece will simply default, and this will put several German and French banks that hold large chunks of Greek sovereign and private debt at risk.

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Germany
Four professors will launch a legal challenge in early May at the Verfassungsgericht (high court).
Should they secure an injunction, EMU may fly apart.
EMU shut the warning signals, disguising risk.
What investors overlooked is that currency risk mutates into default risk in a monetary union
The EU-IMF "therapy" of deflation for Greece repeats the catastrophic errors of Chancellor Heinrich Bruning in the early 1930s and must lead to a depression
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 25 Apr 2010

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Friday will be remembered as the day the euro needed rescuing.
Sure it is Greece that has asked to be bailed out but it was still a day that the architects of the single currency had never envisaged.
For when it came to it, there were no plans to save a euro member in trouble.
Gavin Hewitt, the BBC's Europe editor, 24 April 2010

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77 milarder kronor
It has been estimated that Germany will have to contribute over eight billion Euros to the relief effort.
For Merkel, whose coalition government is facing an important regional election in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia on May 9, that steep bill is becoming reality sooner than she would have liked.
Spiegel Online 23/4 2010


However, Greece had to pay 430 basis points above German rates to borrow one-year money.
Rolf Englund blog med påhopp på DN och SvD 14/4 2010


Deflation is the only way Greece can effectively tackle its debt problems,
International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn was quoted on Monday as saying.
CNBC 12 Apr 2010

"The only effective remedy that remains is deflation," Strauss-Kahn told Austrian magazine profil in an interview.

Stabiliseringspolitik

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European governments offered Greece a rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) in three-year loans at below-market interest rates.
Bloomberg April 11 2010


"Tyskland vek sig för trycket - vi ska inte lura oss själva att sådana lån är något annat än subventioner", sa Frank Schaeffler, biträdande finanstalesman för regeringskoalitionspartiet FDP.
DI/Direkt 2010-04-12


What if the Greek loans cannot be repaid? Will they just be rolled over?
And what if other countries like Portugal or even Spain run into difficulty? Will the same facility be made available to them and who will ultimately finance it?
m Gavin Hewitt, the BBC's Europe editor, 12/4 2010

Down the road, other questions will come into play. What if Greece - deep in recession - cannot meet its target to reduce its deficit by 4% this year? What if the economy goes into freefall? What if countries sense they may not get their money back? If it appeared others might want rescuing, when would the German taxpayer cry "enough"? Can the single currency prosper without fiscal union - a step with profound political implications?

Can the eurozone survive when its economies are so different?

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Greece debt to foreign banks, total: 302.6 Billion dollars
- (source FAZ –Finanzmarkt - 09.04.2010)
comment by Dr Jonathan Wilson at Ambrose Daily Telegraph

Germany - 43.2
France - 75.5
Switzerland - 64.0
USA - 16.4
Great Britain - 12.3
Holland - 11.8
Others - 79.4
Total: 302.6 Billion Dollars

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Varför frågar ingen Birgitta Ohlsson om Grekland och EMU?
Rolf Englund blog 12/4 2010


As I write, it appears that EU experts have agreed on a package of €20bn to €25bn at 350 points above the IMF tariff, or 5pc.
This achieves nothing. Such wishful thinking has plagued the Greek/EMU crisis from the start.
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 11 Apr 2010

Greece must squeeze a further 13pc of GDP from the budget to stabilise debt costs by 2012, and do so during a slump when every euro of tightening leads to €1.5 to €2 in lost demand.

"The risk is of a viscious downward cycle," Mr Johnson, the IMF's former chief economist, wrote in the Huffington Post.

EU officials react with outrage to comparisons with Argentina, but as Mr Johnson says "Greece is far more indebted, is much less competitive in global markets, and needs a greater fiscal and wage adjustment".

Yet let us be honest. This is not a bail-out for Greece. It is a bail-out for European creditors that account for most of Greece's €391bn external debt (163pc of GDP). As such it is the first line of defence against greater sums at risk across Club Med. The EU rescue shifts the debacle onto taxpayers in order to prevent a systemic crisis, just like the bank bail-outs after the Lehman failure. The question is whether German Landesbanken with wafer-thin capital ratios can withstand a second crisis after losing so much already on US subprime debt.

This has echoes of Credit Anstalt, the Austrian bank that collapsed in June 1931, exposing the underlying rot of Europe's banks. It set off an earthquake across Germany and Central Europe. Contagion spread back into the Anglosphere, snuffing out the recovery of early 1931. The global financial order came crashing down. The Great Depression began in earnest.

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Time to Reread the History of Austria's Creditanstalt in 1931...
Brad DeLong November 26, 2009

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Leaders of the 16 eurozone nations have agreed to fund up to 30 bn euros in emergency loans for Greece
Its total debt stands at nearly 300 bn euros.
BBC, Sunday, 11 April 2010 16:33 UK

Greece has to find around 11.5 bn euros by next month to meet its financial obligations.

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Det finns ändå anledning till viss optimism.
Politikerna försöker tona ned problemen och hoppas samtidigt att EU:s löfte om solidaritet ska skapa lugn, utan att behöva omsättas i handling. Men marknadens aktörer låter sig inte övertygas.
Men för alla som anser att EU behövs finns det egentligen bara en slutsats. Den grekiska krisen måste och kan lösas, eftersom den i grunden handlar om EU-samarbetets framtid.
DN-ledare 10/4 2010

Redan nästa vecka måste Grekland försöka förlänga en del av landets stora statslån. Under de fem kommande veckorna behöver Aten låna motsvarande hundra miljarder kronor för att täcka det stora underskottet i den grekiska statsbudgeten

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DN är optimister om Grekland, EU och EMU
Rlf Englund blog 10/4 2010

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Germany's Bundesbank has fired a warning shot at Chancellor Angela Merkel, attacking the joint EU-IMF rescue plan for Greece as
a threat to economic stability and probably illegal.
Leaked extracts from an internal report appeared in the Frankfurter Rundschau
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, 8 Apr 2010

Barclays Capital said any rescue would have to be at least €40bn-€45bn to restore confidence and provide Greece the funding it needs to buy time for reform.

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Paul Krugman: "Grekland kommer att lämna euron"
E24 6/5 2010

"Jag hoppas att man, någonstans djupt nere i källarvalven hos ECB och det grekiska finansdepartementet, börja tänka det otänkbara. För detta fruktansvärda utfall börjar se bättre ut än alternativen", skriver Paul Krugman.

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Many commentators now believe that Greece will end up restructuring its debt — a euphemism for partial repudiation.
I agree. But the reasoning seems to stop there, which is wrong. In effect, the consensus that Greece will end up defaulting is probably too optimistic.
I’m growing increasingly convinced that Greece will end up leaving the euro, too.
Paul Krugman 6/5 2010

Any announcement of plans to leave the euro would, as Eichengreen points out, trigger disastrous bank runs.

I hope that somewhere, deep in the bowels of the ECB and the Greek Ministry of Finance, people are thinking about the unthinkable. Because this awful outcome is starting to look better than the alternatives.

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The key thing to understand about Greece’s predicament is that
it’s not just a matter of excessive debt.

Unfortunately, Greece can’t expect a similar performance as US.
Why? Because of the euro.
Paul Krugman, New York Times April 8, 2010

Until recently, being a member of the euro zone seemed like a good thing for Greece, bringing with it cheap loans and large inflows of capital. But those capital inflows also led to inflation — and when the music stopped, Greece found itself with costs and prices way out of line with Europe’s big economies.

Over time, Greek prices will have to come back down. And that means that unlike postwar America, which inflated away part of its debt, Greece will see its debt burden worsened by deflation.

Greece could alleviate some of its problems by leaving the euro, and devaluing. But it’s hard to see how Greece could do that without triggering a catastrophic run on its banking system. Indeed, worried depositors have already begun pulling cash out of Greek banks.

There are no good answers here — actually, no nonterrible answers.

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I’ve always been a mild euroskeptic —
I’m one of the American economists that Jonung and Drea, in a spectacularly ill-timed piece, mock for their doubts about EMU.
Paul Krugman NYT February 15, 2010

As I’ve tried to point out in a number of posts, Spain’s troubles are not, despite what you may have read, the result of fiscal irresponsibility.
Instead, they reflect “asymmetric shocks” within the eurozone, which were always known to be a problem, but have turned out to be an even worse problem than the euroskeptics feared.
There’s a kind of classic simplicity about the story — it’s almost like a textbook example. Unfortunately, millions of people are suffering the consequences.
Paul Krugman, New York Times, 9/2 2010

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IMF:s förre chefsekonom, MIT-professorn Simon Johnson, och hans professorskollega Peter Boone visar i en lång artikel på ekonomibloggen Baselinescenario.com att
Greklands ekonomiska situation är långt värre än vad den var i Argentina under åren 1991-2001, det vill säga fram till det att Argentina ställde in sina betalningar.
Per Lindvall SvD/e24 2010-04-08

Marknadens oro för en betalningsinställelse är uppenbart rimlig oavsett om ECB:s Trichet vägrar se det på sin karta utan fortsätter tillåta att grekiska statsobligationer används som panter i banken.
Det är ett högt spel för Trichet vet att det tyska och inte minst franska banksystemet är kontaminerat med grekiska statsobligationer. Och han vet att det lurar ännu större kreditbomber runt hörnet i form av portugisiska, men framför allt irländska och spanska skuldberg.

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Standing At Thermopylae
The Baseline Scenario8/4 2010

Thermopylae

Baselinescenario.com

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Greek Bonds Drop a Seventh Day, Spread Widens
The yield on the 10-year Greek bond rose 30 basis points to 7.54 percent, as of 10:57 a.m. in London.
The cost of insuring against a default on Greek government bonds rose above that for Iceland for the first time.
Bloomberg April 8 2010

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Why the Greek rescue isn’t going to plan
Worries are mounting about the health of the Greek banking system,
raising the spectre of disorderly outflows of deposits
Mohamed El-Erian,FT April 7 2010

Markets around the world have yet to recognise the complexity of this situation. When they do, it will also become apparent that Greece is part of a wider, and historically unfamiliar phenomenon – that of a simultaneous and large disruption to the balance sheet of many industrial countries. Tighten your seat belts.

Mohamed El-Erian is chief executive and co-chief investment officer of Pimco

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Capital flight squeezes Greek banks
FT April 7 2010

George Papaconstantinou, finance minister, said on Wednesday that the banks “have asked for access to the remaining funds of the support plan” – a $37bn government package that was put together during the 2008 global credit crunch.

Many savers had chosen to move funds to their banks’ subsidiaries outside Greece, including Cyprus and Luxembourg, rather than switch to foreign institutions. Others had transferred funds to local subsidiaries of foreign banks, the banker added.

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Mr. Van Rompuy and many investors fear a sovereign default would start a chain reaction of panic and failures, perhaps breaking up the euro zone.
The worries are certainly not groundless, even if Greece’s debt of 270 billion euros is only 4 percent of all euro zone sovereign obligations. A write-down could reduce Greek banks to insolvency.
EDWARD HADAS, NYT April 5, 2010

Other fragile European banks would suffer. Other weak sovereign borrowers might follow, intentionally or not, creating a cascade of traumatic defaults.

For months, politicians like Mr. Van Rompuy have been trying to convince a doubtful world that a Greek default is unthinkable. A change would cause a shock, but on reflection investors might actually welcome a more realistic approach.

The Greek problem is important for the world, because the country has a particularly acute case of a common financial disease: debts that are too large to be serviced by its current incomes

The leverage-fed global bubble in asset prices has left many individuals, some companies and a daunting list of countries at credible risk of default whenever interest rates rise from their current ultralow levels.

The United States and the Britain are certainly on the list.

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Grekiska statspapper "massakreras" i en marknad med starkt säljtryck och dålig likviditet.
Tvååriga grekiska statspappersräntor steg drygt 40 punkter på förmiddagen på uppgifter om att Grekland vill omförhandla villkoren i stödmekanismen med EU och IMF. Under eftermiddagen har ränteuppgången förstärkts kraftigt och räntan noteras nu omkring 132 punkter högre, medan den tyska tvåårsräntan endast noteras 2 punkter högre än på torsdagen.
DI/Direkt 2010-04-06 15:39

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I am willing to risk two predictions.
The first is that Greece will not default this year.
The second is that Greece will default.

Wolfgang Münchau, FT April 4 2010 19:14

The Greek government has demonstrated that it can still borrow at a rate of about 6 per cent but if you do the maths on the public debt dynamics, as I did recently, it would be hard to arrive at any other scenario than an eventual default.

The adjustment effort needed to prevent a debt explosion is extremely large. The Nordic countries achieved adjustment on a similar scale during the 1980s and 1990s, but they had two advantages over Greece. They did it in a different global environment; but more crucially they were, in part, able to devalue and improve their competitiveness.

As a member of a large monetary union Greece can improve its competitiveness only through relative disinflation against the eurozone average, which in effect means through deflation. But as the French economist Jacques Delpla* has pointed out, this will invariably produce a debt-deflation dynamic in the Greek private sector of the kind described by the economist Irving Fisher during the 1930s.

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Last Monday, when Athens tried to sell 5bn euros' of bonds, it was forced to offer an interest rate barely changed from the previous week. It's still costing Greece twice as much to borrow as it does Germany.
For a country that is meant to have the financial backing of the most powerful economies in Europe and the IMF, this is hardly encouraging.
So now the nub of the problem is that every cent of savings that is squeezed out of the hapless Greek public sector will have to be spent paying this level of interest.
BBC World News business presenter Jamie Robertson, 5 April 2010

Nu är problemet att Papandreou, eller vad han heter, den socialist som är statsminister i Grekland efter att ha fått sin utbildning i Sverige, har sagt att han vill att Grekland skall kunna låna till samma ränta som Tyskland gör.
Hur i hela fridens namn skall det gå till?
Rolf Englund blog 2010-03-15

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Southern Europe's problem is essentially a competitiveness problem, and not a fiscal one,
and if many states have been having growing difficulty with their negative fiscal balances, this is a symptom of the problem, and not its cause.
Even in the worst of cases - countries like Greece and Portugal - the rising recourse to fiscal outlays has been a response to lack of "healthy" growth, and the root cause of this continuing difficulty in generating real growth has been the underlying lack of competitiveness, and the inability to export your way out of trouble once the burden of debt starts to rise,
so simply pruning the fiscal side isn't going to cure the problem, and by now that simple point should be obvious, I would have thought.
Edward Hugh, Spain Economy Watch March 24, 2010


The fix was in. The deal done.
Just a couple of weeks back Greece had been saved

Gavin Hewitt, the BBC's Europe editor blog 9 April 2010

As I sat at breakfast that morning a thought nagged away at me. I could not think of a serious economist who did not believe the euro was a flawed currency.
Even friends of the euro had shaken their heads; you couldn't have monetary union without fiscal union. The differences between countries within the zone were too great.

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It was the morning after the night before and I was riding an elevator to the 13th floor in the European Commission.
Two men smiled at each other and one said "I hear Greece has been saved". "Couldn't be better," beamed the other, before disappearing into the vastness of bureaucracy. It felt like news shared from a distant front: "Bastogne has been relieved" or "Malta is holding out".
Gavin Hewitt, the BBC's Europe editor blog 26 March 2010


Wings over Malta

The French president also got written into the draft a phrase that mentioned "the economic government of the European Union". It was the Irish, initially, that choked on the words. The Dutch and the British were not far behind. Officials emerged to say there had been "asymmetrical translation" and the word "government" was replaced by "governance".

In truth the Germans and French mean different things by the words "economic governance". The Germans want a tougher regulatory regime that won't tolerate cheats. The French want to see closer economic co-operation.

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The IMF should impose default on Greece to end the charade
I just had lunch with Carmen Reinhart, author of `This Time is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly” and a world authority on sovereign defaults.
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Economics April 2nd, 2010

Suitably, she was wearing a medallion of a Spanish silver coin dating from 1580, celebrating Philip II’s third default in eighteen years. These magnificent defaults did not stop Spain launching the Armada against Elizabethan England a little later, or attempting to roll back the Protestant Reformation in a last maniacal attempt to impose Habsburg-Papal absolutism on free thinkers, but it did cripple some great European banking dynasties — about 20 in all.

A country can in theory deflate its way back to competitiveness by an `internal devaluation’, ie relative wage cuts, in this case by 20pc to 25pc. Benito Mussolini cut wages by 20pc or so in 1928 when Italy returned to Gold with his Lira Forte policy, but he had Fascist controls on the unions, and Camicie Nere to assist. Italy was not in any case facing the aftermath of a property boom.

It may not be possible for a country to execute such a policy when it already has a public debt above 100pc of GDP, or in Greece’s case nearing 130pc by next year. Debt dynamics take over. The policy leads to a self-feeding spiral in compound interest. This will become evident very soon if — as some economists predict — Greece’s economy contracts by 4pc to 5pc this year.

This Time is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

Read: “Lending to the Borrower From Hell: Debt Default In the Age of Phillip II, 1556-1598? by Maucio Drelichman and Hans-Joachim Voth for details on why the banks kept lending after each default.

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I am aware of the commitment of Europe’s elite to the success of the European project.
But the crisis is profound – for the eurozone, the European Union and the world.
As Wolfgang Münchau has pointed out, last week’s European Council was not a solution but a fudge.
Martin Wolf FT March 30 2010


Prime Minister George Papandreou’s government must raise about 53 billion euros this year,
15.5 billion euros of it by the end of May.
Bloomberg March 29 2010

Failure to do so could spark a new round of the fiscal crisis and trigger the use of the aid plan to help Greece finance its budget deficit by standing behind the nation’s debt crafted by EU leaders in Brussels March 25.

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The euro’s big fat failed wedding
The European Union was banking on three forms of convergence: economic, political and popular.
Gideon Rachman March 29 2010

The creators of the euro were like parents fixing an arranged marriage. They knew that they were locking together countries with very different economies and political cultures. But they hoped that, over time, the new partners would grow together and form a genuine union.

Once Europeans were using the same notes and coins, they would feel how much they had in common, develop shared loyalties and deepen their political union.

Finally, the designers of the single currency were hoping for a third form of convergence, between elite and popular opinion. They knew that in certain crucial countries, in particular Germany, the public did not share the political elite’s enthusiasm for the creation of the euro. But they hoped that, in time, ordinary people would embrace the new single European currency.

It is also now obvious that countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal are struggling to compete with the much more productive German economy. In a currency union they cannot devalue their way out of trouble. The only alternative solution on offer is a long and painful period of austerity to reduce their costs through cuts in wages and living standards.

When the euro was launched, leading German politicians used to argue, with evident relish, that monetary union would eventually require political union. The Greek crisis was precisely the sort of event that was expected to force the pace.

But, faced with a defining crisis, Ms Merkel’s government is avoiding airy talk of political union – preferring instead to force harsh economic medicine down the throats of the reluctant Greeks.

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Greece Borrows After EU Deal
The bond looked set to be priced at around 6.0 percent
more than twice what Germany pays
CNBC 29 Mar 2010

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The aspect that puzzled me most was the announcement that a rescue would come in the form of a loan at market interest rates.
This surely must imply that the market would not be willing to lend money to Greece at market interest rates.
That is an absurd proposition.
Wolfgang Münchau, FT March 28 2010

Greece would have to be cut off from the capital markets; in such a situation it is difficult to imagine that a loan from the EU – at prohibitively high interest rates – would solve any problems.

The Greek problem is not simply access to capital – which has not been a problem during its crisis so far – but the interest rates the country has to pay for its debt

The Greek government recently announced an austerity package that aims to shave 4 percentage points off the deficit-to-gross domestic product ratio. This will result in a deep and probably long recession.

When a country adopts an austerity package of such magnitude it needs some form of relief, simply to make it through the recession. This would normally come either through devaluation or from a low-interest loan, usually from the International Monetary Fund, or ideally both.

Greece will have neither.

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Nu är problemet att Papandreou, eller vad han heter, den socialist som är statsminister i Grekland efter att ha fått sin utbildning i Sverige, har sagt att han vill att Grekland skall kunna låna till samma ränta som Tyskland gör.
Hur i hela fridens namn skall det gå till?
Det sitter EMU-ländernas finansministrar och funderar på. Det skall bli spännande att se vad de kommer fram till. Inte bara spännande, ganska lustigt också, faktiskt.
Rolf Englund blog 15/3 2010

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For Greece to ‘leave the Euro’ involves the launch of a new curreny.
From scratch. People talk as if the drachma lives on
The Eurozone is not a fixed-exchange rate system, it’s a common currency area.
The drachma has been abolished. This parrot is deceased.
The Irish Economy March 27th, 2010

David McWilliams has advocated in his SBP column that Ireland should choose to ’leave the Euro’. Please explain, in great detail (this is not a transition-year project) precisely
- how the introduction of a new currency in current circumstances would be executed, and
- how it would pan out in macro-policy terms.
German and other advocates of an expulsion option might join David in this exercise.

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