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Grekland kan betala sin förfallande skulder om de får nya lån. Men det hjälper inte kostnadsläget. Rolf Englund blog 19 sept 2011 Det finns de som försöker skylla den aktuella krisen på euron.
Peter Wolodarski, DN 2010-05-02 What Happens If Greece Defaults? - CNBC
What happens when Greece defaults. Here are a few things:
Andrew Lilico, Daily Telegraph, May 20th, 2011 - Every bank in Greece will instantly go insolvent.
- The Greek government will nationalise every bank in Greece. - The Greek government will forbid withdrawals from Greek banks. - To prevent Greek depositors from rioting on the streets, Argentina-2002-style (when the Argentinian president had to flee by helicopter from the roof of the presidential palace to evade a mob of such depositors), the Greek government will declare a curfew, perhaps even general martial law. Grekland står på randen av statsbankrutt.
EU:s valutaunion har visat att den inte håller måttet. Att EU:s valutaunion spricker är inte realistiskt, men att det ”otänkbara” faktiskt diskuteras säger åtskilligt om allvaret. Signerat, Claes Arvidsson, SvD 7/5 2010 Where the IMF Gets its Money IMF
Grekland ett permanent bekymmer, som slutligen kan leda till att grekerna tvingas gå bankrutt och kanske även lämna euron. ”Chicken Race” Voluntary Ledaren för eurozonens finansministrar, Luxemburgs Jean-Claude Junker, beskriver förhandlingarna som "extremt svåra". Regeringskälla: Den grekiska regeringens förhandlingar med internationella borgenärer går bra Ah, but what do we have here, at 3:36 AM (via my London partner, Niels Jensen), Voluntary The Greek default will have only the most minor effect on the United States - except that it will give the White House and its Federal Reserve appointees someone other than themselves to blame for the economy not recovering in 2012. Voluntary While Laos (People’s party) has only 16 seats in the Greek parliament, its anti-European line is echoed by lawmakers in Pasok, the socialist party that lost power in November but is now part of the three-party coalition headed by Lucas Papademos, Greece’s technocrat prime minister. Antonis Samaras, the conservative leader, has also warned that Greece cannot take more austerity Grekland är ett sorgligt särfall. Portugal - The next special case? Irland - Italien - Spanien - Portugal Voluntary German commentators on Friday say it's time for a bit of honesty from Europe's leaders. The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes: "Europe's citizens are growing accustomed to only being told a small part of the truth. In the end, Olli Rehn's vague comments could mean that the European Central Bank will have to waive a portion of its Greek bond claims. That could, in turn, make itself felt in the budgets of euro-zone member states. European taxpayers, though, will never be told the full extent of the damage.... Even should there be debt relief for Greece, it will not put a stop to the country's thirst for borrowing. Debt relief would change nothing when it comes to the shocking inability of the Greek economy to compete internationally. Yet, without economic growth, there is no foundation for healthy state finances." Grekisk tvångsförvaltning Anna Diamantopoulou 1999-2004 EU-kommissionär med ansvar för sysselsättning och socialpolitik i Prodi-kommissionen. Wikipedia Forderung nach Sparkommissar Griechen-Presse pöbelt gegen Berlin
„Merkel fordert bedingungslose Kapitulation“ Unconditional surrender
The use of the term was revived during World War II at the Casablanca conference when American President Franklin D. Roosevelt sprang it on the other Allies and the press as the objective of the war against the Axis Powers of Germany, Italy, and Japan.
The term was also used at the end of World War II when Japan surrendered to the Allies.
Both Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin disapproved of the demand for unconditional surrender, as did most senior U.S. officials (except General Dwight D. Eisenhower). "EMU är i alla fall bra för freden" Tyskland vill att en ny budgetkommissionär, utsedd av eurozonen, I dokumentet, som lämnades till medlemmarna i eurozonen på fredagen, skriver Tyskland: "Med tanke på det misslyckade uppfyllandet hittills måste Grekland acceptera att lämna över bestämmanderätten över budgeten till Europanivå under en viss tid". Horst Reichenbach Logiken i det hela rör sig i federativ riktning... Sch! säger Kohl åt mig när jag tar upp det. Acropolis now
The Greek debt crisis is spreading. Europe needs a bolder, broader solution—and quickly Speaking on the fringes of the forum, George Soros, the financier, blamed Germany for many of the eurozone’s woes. Involuntary "Hedge funds don't need to worry about their public image," one banker says. Their reputation has already been destroyed. Therefore, they can be relatively cavalier in gambling with the possibility of a Greek bankruptcy. Greece Involuntary Discard the veneer of voluntarism and Greece can be tougher on its creditors. It should pass a law that retroactively introduces collective-action clauses into all domestic-debt contracts (making it easier to impose debt deals on recalcitrant bondholders). If it does this now there is still, just, enough time to organise a big, coercive, but orderly, restructuring of Greek bonds by March 20th. Credit default swap, Wikipedia Sardelis och The Ticking Euro Bomb, The creditors, represented in the negotiations by the Institute of International Finance, have said that they won't agree to interest rates of less than 4% on the new bonds. And then there's the European Central Bank, which owns around €45 billion of Greece's debt, purchased on the secondary market. European finance ministers balked at putting up more public money for Greece, Greek bondholders draw line in the sand Now, the bankers and leaders of Europe are getting ready to walk to the edge of the Abyss. if relatively big economies like Italy and Spain got into trouble
One of the unresolved problems hanging over the eurozone was what would happen if relatively big economies like Italy and Spain got into trouble. There was neither a fund big enough to rescue them nor a firewall large enough to prevent contagion. A permanent rescue fund, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), has been brought forward and should be in place by the summer. It will have a lending capacity of 500bn euros. There are still 250bn euros in the existing rescue fund, the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF). One plan is to run these two funds in parallel. The Germans are currently under enormous pressure to boost the fund to over a trillion. The sticking point is the interest paid on the new bonds, bearing in mind they will not mature for 30 years. Greece, Voluntary... Vem avstår frivilligt 70 procent av sin fordran? Greece was closing in on an initial deal with private bond holders on Friday The agreement, to be followed up by technical talks over the weekend, could come later in the day, sources close to the negotiations said. Private bondholders would most likely incur a real loss of 65 to 70 percent, with the new bonds having a 30-year maturity and offering a progressive coupon, or interest rate, averaging out at 4 percent, a banking official close to the talks told Reuters. Hemligt PM. Marshall-hjälpen, Grekland och Carl Bildt Standard & Poor´s motiveringar till sina nedgraderade kreditbetyg för en lång rad euroländer drar ner byxorna på euroetablissemanget, Angela Merkel om "frivillig" nedskrivning med 50 procent av Greklands skulder As one senior figure who has long played a role in the euro negotiations says, politicians hate being pushed around by markets Ms Merkel’s scepticism also stems from bitter experience. The European Central Bank and Mr Sarkozy had warned that such contagion would happen. Merkel signed up to a commitment that private sector bondholders The “haircut” on Greek debt sparked investor fears that the debts of other heavily indebted countries such as Italy and Spain might also not be honoured, contributing to a sharp increase in their bond yields. Ms Merkel said it was imperative to show that Europe was a “safe place to invest”. ECB-ledamoten Athanasios Orphanides, centralbankschef i Cypern Ett "fruktansvärt misstag" och "jag vet inte hur det kan lösas", sade Athanasios Orphanides. I en första uppgörelse i juli föreslogs en skuldlättnad på motsvarande 21 procent. Denna uppgörelse har dock rivits upp och ersatts av ett förslag på att halvera skulderna, vilket motsvarar en nedskrivning på cirka 100 miljarder euro. Centralbankschef på Cypern? Ha, ha, ha, kanske Du tänker. Men skratta inte för tidigt. Bankerna på Cypern har en inlåning på 93 miljarder dollar. Undrar vad det är för pengar? Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) - Deposits in Cyprus’s banks fell 0.2 percent to 69.7 billion euros ($93 billion) in October compared to the prior, the Central Bank of Cyprus said. Interndevalvering Statens budgetunderskott kan inledningsvis komma att stiga i stället för att minska, eftersom skatteunderlaget krymper samtidigt som utgifterna för arbetslöshetsunderstöd o dyl. stiger. Tanken är emellertid att detta stålbad skall pågå i tillräckligt många år, så att priser och löner kan falla rejält jämfört med dessa länders handelspartner. Då kan sysselsättning och produktion börja stiga genom att förbättrad konkurrenskraft får exporten att öka samtidigt som import kan ersättas av inhemsk produktion. Unga och välutbildade kommer att utvandra, vilket är en nödvändig säkerhetsventil i en valutaunion. Det är så den USA:s valutaunion överlever. Och slutligen, när deflationen är igång, stiger realvärdet av alla skulder och kan tvinga fram ökat sparande, som sänker efterfrågan ytterligare. Deflation är inte att leka med. I Sverige och Finland klarade vi liknande grundproblem 1991-1993 med ganska små påfrestningar. Det berodde på att åtstramningarna kunde kombineras med nominell devalvering, eftersom vi hade egna valutor. Valutaunioner är inte heller att leka med. * Även om man, på något sätt, skulle kunna ta hand om medlemsländernas skulder (Reuters) - Greeks protesting at austerity measures demanded by foreign lenders blocked a major national parade on Friday Greek protesters call president "traitor" 28.10.2011 Rolf Englund: Grekland ska folkomrösta om det nya EU-stödpaketet, "Om det grekiska folket inte vill ha det så kommer det inte att godkännas", säger Papandreou till nyhetsbyrån AFP. EU-ledarna: Räcker inte 50 % nedskrivning för Grekland, det hade vi ingen aaning om? Jag har lyssnat i nästan tre timmar idag 12/10 på Studio 1:s genomlysning av den europeiska skuldkrisen utan att ha blivit så mycket klokare. Den fråga jag väntade att skulle besvaras var Hur kan det vara klart att Grekland ska få sina 8 miljarder euro om man samtidigt tror att Grekland ska gå i konkurs Borde Grekland behålla euron? Det som Örn visar i ett diagram om den grekiska valutans övervärdering är något som Persson och Flam borde ta till sig. Efter eurons införande har emellertid den nominella växelkursen låsts (vid 175 drachm/DM). Samtidigt har den reala växelkursen försämrats med nästan 20 procent genom snabbare löneökningar i Grekland än i Tyskland. Det betyder att den grekiska valutan borde devalveras med nästan 25 procent för att komma i paritet med Tyskland. Om inte annat brukar det finnas mycket tyska turister i Grekland, som nu tycker att det blivit dyrt att turista där. Att långsamt sänka de grekiska lönerna i den ordinarie lönebildningen? Varför skulle det vara enklare? Jag tror att folk i allmänhet lider av penningillusion och inte är konstruerade som rationella nationalekonomer. Försöken att motivera att Grekland ska finnas kvar i EMU och behålla euron för att det är bäst för grekerna själva verkar inte speciellt välgrundade och trovärdiga. Der frühere Chefvolkswirt der Europäischen Zentralbank, Otmar Issing, fordert einen Schuldenschnitt für Griechenland und hält in der Folge einen Ausstieg des Landes aus der Eurozone für unvermeidlich. In einem Interview mit dem stern sagte der langjährige Notenbanker, er halte es für "ausgeschlossen" dass Griechenland mithilfe radikaler Sparmaßnahmen wieder auf die Beine komme. Das Land würde im kommenden Jahr eine Schuldenquote von 160 Prozent des Bruttoinlandsprodukts erreichen Mats Persson, Grekland och de rationella förväntningarna Greklands oväntat stora underskottet för 2011 på 8,5 procent av BNP Greklands "unexpectedly harsh recession" Grekland borde aldrig ha gått med i euron, det vet vi nu. Det är obegripligt hur EU kunde blunda för att hela Europa inte är som Tyskland. Greklands konkurs - en studie i panik?
Om sparpaketet inte går igenom blir det inte några 8 mdr € i övertagande av förfallande lån. Då har vi kris på onsdag. Arga greker som skriker antikapitalistiska slagord utanför parlamentet fördjupar krisen, Arga greker gör andra européer arga. En våg av bitterhet drabbar invånarna i EU:s nettobetalande länder; här har EU pumpat in otaliga miljarder sedan Grekland kom med 1981! Hårt arbetande tyskar frågar sig varför de ska subventionera den grekiska livsstilen. Någonstans i Berlin hukar så Angela Merkel och tänker på hur väljarna straffat henne i tidigare delstatsval. Medan desperata liberaler i FDP försöker svida om till euroskeptiker. Grekland måste rimligen gå i konkurs, ingen kan förstås säkert överblicka konsekvenserna. Men det finns kalkyler som pekar på att det blir betydligt billigare för Tyskland och Frankrike att rädda sina egna banker i stället för att köra fler repriser av programmet Skuldkris. Låt också Grekland stanna i EMU, för det är också vad grekerna vill. Grekland En grekisk statsbankrutt skulle inte i sig välta hela euroområdet. Kruxet är att åtskilliga länders banker sitter med stora innehav av statsobligationer i både Grekland, Italien och resten av Sydeuropa. Ingen vet exakt hur riskbilden ser ut och allt färre litar på varandra. Kommentar av Rolf Englund: Rubriken för ledaren är: "Eurokrisen: Fler behöver visa skuldmedvetenhet" Rubriken fick mig att tro att det skulle handla om att de som arbetat för införandet av euron, DN, Svenska Dagbladet och nästan hela det övriga etablisemanget, som inbillar sig vara en elit, skulle visa skuldmedvetenhet och ånger. Men icke. Fler behöver visa skuldmedvetenhet, skriver DN Förut ledde väl inte budgetbekymmer i Grekland till risk för sammanbrott i världsekonomin ? Charles Gave beskriver situationen i Grekland som ett ”lågintensivt inbördeskrig”. Även om Grekland misskött sin ekonomi går det inte att komma ifrån att Ett av de centrala argumenten på nej-sidan mot euron var att Europa inte är ett ”optimalt valutaområde” – vilket betyder att euroländernas ekonomier helt enkelt är så olika och aldrig helt kan vara i fas med varandra att en gemensam valuta och ränta inte kan passa alla samtidigt. Som nejsägare till euron kan jag uttala de fruktansvärda men underbara orden: Vad var det vi sa? Nils Lundgren: EMU och teorin för optimala valutaområden Och då skrev jag i Financial Times om eurobonds och Hayek (och Grekland) Greklandskrisen på 30 sekunder Ledaren för Greklands största konservativa oppositionsparti säger att det enda sättet – Enda lösningen är val, så att folket vilja kommer till uttryck, sade Ny demokratis ledare Antonis Samaras i ett tal i Thessaloniki på lördagen.
Rolf Gustavsson, demokratin och sockerbagare Grekland, demokratin och det nu aktuella pladdret Sveriges erfarenheter från 1990-talskrisen kan tas som exempel. Vad som kan locka med att överge euron är att Grekland får möjlighet till devalvering. Problemet för till exempel Grekland är att kostnaderna under ett antal år stigit i förhållande till andra euroländer. Calmfors pekar på Eurokrisens huvudproblem, kostnadsläget * Grekland ska införa en ny fastighetsskatt I lördags sade Venizelos att Greklands ekonomi i år väntas krympa med 5,3 procent i år, vilket är mer än man trodde tidigare. Full text
Greklands BNP krympte med 2 procent i fjol. I år (2010) och nästa år (2011) väntas BNP minska med 4 respektive 2,6 procent, Sedan kommer vändningen, i Sardelius diagram. - Men vad är det som får BNP att vända upp, trots åtstramningarna, vid fast växelkurs, frågade jag från golvet. Sardelius svarade att det var genom utbudspolitiken, borttagande av onödig byråkrati mm. Jag skrattade. - Skrattar Du, sade Sardelius. Ja, sade jag. Det är kanske fel att skratta i en så allvarlig situation. Det är ju, som Sardelius själv visade i ett annat diagram, nödvändigt med en stark tillväxt för att kunna beta av statsskulden.
Jag är väl inte så mycket skickligare ekonom än dom andra i salen, från Riksbank och Finansdepartement med mera. Dom förstod nog också. Men dom teg. Det är allvarligare att folk tiger än att någon skrattar. Hellre skratta än att vara kollaboratör. Top of pageDebatterade igår euron med Olle Schmidt i Studio ett. Låt Grekland lämna euron "When the Holy Roman Emperor, Henry VI (1190-1197), demanded money and men for his projected crusade, Holy Roman Empire, Wikipedia A History of Greece,Amazon The Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburgs, 1400–1600 Rome, Habsburg and the European Union Portugisiska och grekiska bönder vill helt enkelt inte att nogräknade tyskar och svenskar i demokratisk ordning reformerar, det vill säga lägger ned, deras jordbruk. Möte på torsdag mellan Frankrikes nye finansminister Francois Baroin och hans tyske kollega Wolfgang Schäuble Grekland, Persson och Jens Henriksson ”Mordet på EU-expressen” Irlands underskott exploderade efter att landet tvingades rädda sina banker och i Spanien är problemen lika mycket situationen i banksystemet som misskötta statsfinanser. Underskotten var en konsekvens av krisen: mer än en orsak. Tyska banker har lånat ut 500 miljarder euro till Portugal, Irland, Grekland och Spanien. Skulle de skriva ner sina skulder kommer förlusterna i det statligt ägda tyska Landesbanken att bli enorma. Neil Ferguson i Newsweek Varför ingen har skrivit en avslöjande insiderskildring från Ja till euro-kampanjen 2003,
måste vara ett av de största mysterierna i svensk politik. Skulle Grekland brännmärkas med "default" av S & P eller Fitch kan den grekiska skuldkrisen förvärras snabbt. Grekisk stötesen En stötesten har varit om och i så fall hur privata långivare ska bidra. Förhoppningen är att banker och andra investerare frivilligt ska gå med på en förlängning av skulderna, att de ska köpa nya grekiska statsobligationer när de gamla löper ut. Mer om hur nästa grekiska stödpaket kommer att utformas lär beslutas den 11 juli då euroländernas finansministrar träffas på nytt. Grekland Det första alternativet innebär att hunden viftar på svansen, det andra att svansen ska vifta på hunden. Problemet är att Grekland som medlem i eurozonen inte har en egen valuta, och därmed inte kan devalvera. Alltså rekommenderar IMF, ECB och euroländerna det senare alternativet. Men Greklands ekonomi är inte i sådant skick att landet kan hålla jämna steg, i konkurrenskraft och tillväxt, med de dominerande euroländerna. Grekland hör inte hemma i eurozonen. Den amerikanske ekonomen Herbert Stein har skrivit: ”If anything cannot go on forever, it will stop.” Hans slutsats kan kritiseras för att vara ytterst deprimerande. Härav följer inte att den är felaktig. De har inte läst Herbert Stein. Jeffrey Sachs, Grekland och Persson Jeffrey Sachs och chockterapin i den fd monetära unionen Jugoslavien Man bör inte avfärda alternativet att landet lämnar valutasamarbetet. Stefan Fölster menar att en nedskrivning av Greklands skulder är oundviklig. Han pekar på att Grekland faktiskt genomfört många åtgärder vilket kanske inte är det intryck man får när media rapporterar från landet. Det finns egentligen inte någon Eurokris. Det är en i Sverige vanlig uppfattning att det var Göran Perssons motsvarande nedskärningar som satte fart på den svenska ekonomin. Nedskärningarna räddade landet, tror många. USA:s president och alla vi andra borde inte bekymra oss om Liran och Drachman Innan månadsslutet ska man dessutom kunna visa upp konkreta, klubbade besparingsplaner för statskassan på 28,4 miljarder euro, exempelvis genom att sälja ut några statsägda bolag till privata intressenter, helst så många som ett stort bolag var tionde dag om kalkylen ska hålla. /Grekland skall/ sälja ut några statsägda bolag till privata intressenter, helst så många som ett stort bolag var tionde dag om kalkylen ska hålla. En klentrogen journalist frågade hur i all sin dar man kunde tro att den grekiska regeringen skulle kunna sälja av ett statligt företag var tionde dag från och med nu. –De bara måste göra det, svarade eurogruppens ledare Jean-Claude Juncker kort. Dagens Nyheter och Svenska Dagbladet är pinsamma om EMU och Grekland Baksidan av de massiva nedskärningarna är att ekonomin krymper, Tyskland och Frankrike har enats om att snällt be privata investerare i grekiska statsobligationer att ta en liten del av notan. Men Grekland skulle behöva hjälp av några antika gudar för att ta sig upp ur dödsriket. Alternativt en ordnad nedskrivning av skulderna. Andes Borg å ena och å den andra sidan om eurokrisen Tyskland vill att privata investerare som banker och försäkringsbolag, Men andra varnar för att det skulle ses som att Grekland ställer in sina betalningar och därmed är statsbankrutt. Robert Bergqvist: Samhällskollaps runt hörnet Greklands kris är så djup att landet kan tvingas att lämna eurosamarbetet. Svenska Dagbladet åter i EMU-debatten! Slutsatsen i ledaren om Grekland är att "Ännu kan det faktiskt sluta lyckligt", en ovanlig men därför kanske intressant uppfattning. Strukturreformerna är bra anser SvD "oavsett om de på sikt klarar av att blåsa tillräckligt liv i landet för att vända den ständigt stigande statsskuldskurvan". Men avsikten med reformerna/nedskärningarna är väl just att "att blåsa tillräckligt liv i landet för att vända den ständigt stigande statsskuldskurvan" och därmed återupprätta Greklands kreditvärdighet? The bail-out strategy that rescued Europe’s peripheral economies is proving insufficient. Resultatet kommer att bli en helt och hållet frivillig skuldomläggning Det centrala problemet är ett dödläge mellan bailout-rädda politiker och instabilitetsfruktande centralbanker. Översättning av RE, för engelsk originaltext klicka här Pengarna "till Grekland" går till bankerna New York Times dömer ut försöken att "vinna tid" genom nya pålagor på det grekiska folket Fast i skuldfällan - Grekland stramar åt men inget hjälper Att skriva ned skulderna, och låta privata investerare ta sin del av förlusten, är den ekonomiskt realistiska lösningen. Utan tvekan finns det risker. Banker i Grekland, och i andra EU-länder, kan gå omkull och det måste finnas beredskap att stötta finanssystemet där det behövs. Diskussioner har förts om så kallad mjuk nedskrivning av Greklands skulder, genom att man förlänger löptiden på statspapper. Men kreditvärderingsinstituten hotar att likställa det med statsbankrutt. Och ECB säger tvärt nej till alla sorters nedskrivningar, bland annat för att banken själv äger massor av grekiska obligationer som skulle förlora i värde. Snaran dras åt kring Grekland Förhoppningarna är att hälften av de 60-70 miljarder euro som Grekland behöver till 2013 ska kunna klaras av utan ytterligare lån. Can Greece learn the economic lessons Argentina missed? In Argentina's case, the government struggled to keep the economy on the rails, even though it had help from the International Monetary Fund, for most of 2000 and 2001, before President Fernando de la Rua was forced to resign.
For a vision of how the Greek debt meltdown is going to end, look no further than the International Monetary Fund's post mortem into a similar crisis that came to a head almost exactly a decade ago - Lessons From The Crisis In Argentina. The parallels with Argentina are so strikingly exact as to bear repeating at length. Substitute the word Greece for Argentina in the IMF's analysis, and euro for currency board, and you'd have a near perfect account of the present crisis, all written nearly eight years ago. Here's what happened in Argentina. Lessons from the Crisis in Argentina Default, Devaluation, Or What? Officials warned, however, that almost every element of the new package faced significant opposition from at least one of the governments and institutions involved in the current negotiations and a deal could still unravel. One senior European official involved in the talks, however, said ECB objections could be overcome if the rescheduling was structured properly. Officials think Greece will be unable to return to the financial markets to raise money on its own in March Skrattar bäst som skrattar först om Grekland Grekland står nu på randen till statsbankrutt. Tusentals greker i fredlig protest mot sparplaner För första gången under den pågående grekiska ekonomiska krisen anordnades inte en demonstration av några fackföreningar, organisationer eller politiska partier, utan spontant via internet, via Facebook Bundesbank President och Grekland – “the central bank equivalent of nuclear deterrence: Kaos väntar om Grekland faller Greklands regering antog ett nytt paket med utgiftsnedskärningar och försäljningar av statlig egendom Greklands regering kommer inom de närmaste dagarna att annonsera åtgärder för att Rolf Englund: Grekland har cirka elva miljoner invånare. Den nya besparingen/nedskärningen motsvarar cirka 5.000 kr per capita, Euroländernas del av det lån på 110 miljarder euro som förhandlades fram förra våren ligger på 80 miljarder euro. Dels den ränta som exempelvis Tyskland eller Frankrike själva betalar för att låna, men även en extra riskpremie som förra året bestämdes skulle ligga på 3 procent. Det gör att Grekland hittills har betalat över 6 miljarder kronor i riskpremie – en summa som flutit direkt in på eurostaternas konton runt om i Europa. Om Grekland ställer in betalningarna, alternativt skriver ned värdet på sina utestående lån, Greklands affärsbanker har använt grekiska statsobligationer som säkerhet för att få låna pengar av centralbanken i Frankfurt. Vid årsskiftet var bankernas skulder till ECB uppe i 94 miljarder euro. Grekland har ingen chans att klara sig undan en omstrukturering av sina skulder. Läget i Grekland blir allt allvarligare. Ekonomin skenar och missnöjet bland människor växer. Skrattar bäst som skrattar först om Grekland Hans Werner Sinn, chef för det ansedda IFO-institutet.
I helgen aktualiserade den ansedda ekonomen alternativet att Grekland lämnar eurozonen. zc Financial Secretary to the Treasury Mark Hoban, MP and Jack Straw, a former foreign minister, about Greece and the euro Eventually, governments pursuing ever more austerity Jan Kees de Jager, the Dutch finance minister Germany and Greece flirt with mutual assured destruction Bild Zeitung populism has prevailed. Germany is pushing Greece towards a hard default, risking the uncontrollable chain reaction so long feared by markets. Greece can, if provoked, pull the pin on the European banking system and inflict huge damage on Germany itself, and Greece has certainly been provoked. Germany’s EU commissioner Günther Oettinger said Europe should send blue helmets to take control of Greek tax collection and liquidate state assets. This has sent the economy into a self-feeding downward spiral, crushing tax revenues. The policy is obscurantist, a replay of the Gold Standard in 1931. It has self-evidently failed.För både Moderater och Folkpartister verkar eurokrisen bara handla om att justera några tekniska detaljer, The German chancellor remains a believer. "voluntarily" The current conflict centers on the planned second bailout package for Greece, worth €130 billion and agreed to in principle at an EU summit last October. Greece needs the first payment of this fund in March to avoid insolvency. Part of this package is the 50 percent debt haircut for Greece that is now under negotiation. It envisions Greece's private creditors - primarily banks, insurance companies, investment funds and hedge funds - voluntarily agreeing to the write downs. Together, they hold some €205 billion in Greek bonds. Since May 2010, the ECB has purchased sovereign bonds from crisis-stricken euro-zone member states worth €213 billion. An estimated €55 billion of that are Greek bonds. when Greek banks borrow from the ECB, they post Greek sovereign bonds as collateral. The committee representing Greece's lenders said that some parties It said discussions were "paused for reflection on the benefits of a voluntary approach" without stating when they would resume. The alternative to a voluntary debt write-off is likely to be an outright default by Greece - a failure to continue repaying its debts. Some lenders have also privately expressed their objection to the agreement, because it is being devised in a way to avoid causing payouts on credit default swaps - financial contracts taken out to provide insurance on a Greek debt default. The European Central Bank - which has bought up a significant share of Greece's debts as part of efforts to rescue the country - is not participating in the talks and will not accept any write-off of the debts it holds. The biggest danger is Greece
An IMF report on Greece just before Christmas was sobering. It says GDP probably shrank by 5.5-6% last year and may fall by a further 3% in 2012. Deepening recession makes it harder for Greece to meet its budgetary targets. The pace of reform and of privatisation has been slower than hoped. The delay in reaching an agreement with private-sector creditors on the losses that they should bear on Greek government bonds has not helped. The IMF reckons that, if all private bondholders agreed to take a 50% “haircut” (ie, lose half the value of their bonds) and if Greece were to meet its fiscal targets, public debt might eventually fall to 120% of GDP. Skrattar bäst som skrattar först om Grekland Horst Reichenbach One answer is playing out now as a Greek tragedy: It would be Europe’s worst nightmare: after weeks of rumors, We’re not occupiers, says Greek task force The one form of adjustment that is made a condition of financial support is ever more severe fiscal austerity. Vad journalisterna och EU-eliten missade George Papandreou also personally promoted the man behind the drafting of this Referendum Law. He is Interior Minister Haris Kastanidis, and in the past he has called into question whether the austerity measures being applied to Greece are too painful. A passionate believer in democracy and human rights, Kastanidis’ attitudes have been framed by a youth spent under the Colonels: his father was persecuted by the Colonels, to the point where his health failed and he died young. Greece’s prime minister unexpectedly announced a referendum to approve a second EU bail-out deal for his austerity-hit country, Europe’s crisis is all about the north-south split Greece prepares to default within the euro – the worst of all possible worlds Such a package would be tremendously expensive: in the trillions. Daniel Hannan about illelgal eurobonds Calmfors pekar på Eurokrisens huvudproblem, kostnadsläget The Greek people are increasingly asking what the point is of this pain. They see years and years of austerity ahead. In their view, they are being forced to accept deep cuts to protect the French and German banks. Again and again people ask where all this is heading. What is the end game? During the last two years the economy has shrunk by 10%. It is one of the reasons why Greece failed to meet its targets. And yet - in the eyes of many - the same medicine is being repeated. Unemployment is now at 16.3%. So Greece continues on its painful path. Time is bought for Europe's banks to make their balance sheets better able to withstand losses. Democracy: The European crisis Sixteen months after a landmark bailout In a vertiginous trading session Friday that also saw the surprise resignation of a top European Central Bank official, Greek woes once again unnerved investors. The euro slumped sharply against the dollar, falling under $1.37. Bourses in Paris and Frankfurt suffered big losses, led by banks, who would bear the brunt of a meltdown in Europe's periphery. Will the eurozone break up? Lagarde warns major economies of recession * In an eloquent speech in Washington today, the head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, repeated her call for policymakers to act together to confront today's troubling times.
"They must reclaim the spirit of 2008, or the spirit of 1944. The Wilsonian spirits". Investors are right to be relieved that central banks have today reclaimed 'the spirit of 2008'. But we should not forget to be disappointed that it is still required. As I said on the 10 o'clock news last night,
For Europe's elite, the idea of a country leaving the euro is anathema. And that will push them towards shouldering Greece's debt. International lenders put Greece on notice that it is in danger of losing its next €8bn tranche of bail-out loans
Officials from the “troika” – made up of the European Union, International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank – abruptly suspended talks and left Greece on Friday in a warning to Athens before negotiations resume in 10 days. Evangelos Venizelos, the finance minister, said the government had no plans to adopt extra austerity measures, blaming a deeper than expected recession for spending overruns and missed revenue targets. * Låt Grekland lämna euron * "Det gäller bara Grekland", Mycket fiffigt, Too clever by half, Cconcern at the approach taken by BNP Paribas and CNP Assurances Banks and insurers that used market prices suffered a bigger hit. Royal Bank of Scotland wiped £733m from the value of a £1.45bn Greek government bond portfolio – a 51 per cent cut. Griechenland könnte laut dem weltweit führenden Versicherungsmakler Aon ein Bürgerkrieg drohen. East Germany Was and Is Greece Greece, Ireland and Portugal Wolfgang Schäuble, German finance minister, said a rethink was needed Greece, Portugal and Ireland Moment of truth for the eurozone Within just five years, the Greeks want to cut spending by the equivalent of 17 percent of their total GDP in 2010.
The Greek rollover pact is like a toxic CDO If you take some time to work through the arrows and boxes, you see relatively quickly that this complex structure is not a private sector participation at all. Rather it is a private sector bail-out. It is also inevitable that Greece will default on its coupon payment at some point. Full text via Rolf Englund blog This isn't just a mortgage or housing crisis. Greece’s austerity plan looks doomed to fail. Greece’s politicians reckon that so long as they pretend to fix their country, the EU will hand over the money whether the plan succeeds or not. After all, who wants to pull the plug on Greece if that risks contagion across the euro zone? The plan seems to do too little to help Greece, and too much to help the banks. It reduces the potential loss they might suffer were Greece to default and lets them take some money out now. It also rewards them with interest payments that may rise to 8% if the Greek economy rebounds. For Greece, the bargain is far less compelling. The 30-year plan does nothing to reduce Greece’s debt burden and could complicate any eventual restructuring. The difficulties facing the real economy, the contraction of bank credit in combination with ongoing capital flight and record unemployment, in particularly among young people, make Papandreou’s endeavors this week a herculean task. What we are currently witnessing on the streets and squares across Greece is the next stage of the country’s two-year long crisis. It now involves the collapse in trust between citizens and Greek-style parliamentary democracy. Jens Bastian is a senior economic research fellow at the Athens-based think tank ELIAMEP (Hellenic Foundation for European & Foreign Policy). He is currently a Visiting Fellow for the Political Economy of Southeast Europe at St Antony’s College in Oxford, U.K. Throughout the eurozone crisis the EU has insisted that Greece carry out the impossible When an outcome is inevitable, it is necessary to plan for it. The economy looks extraordinarily uncompetitive. The most telling indicator is the combination of the still huge current account deficit with a deep recession Without a surge in exports, it will be impossible to return to sustainable growth. Such a surge will require a big reduction in nominal costs. If this is feasible at all, which I doubt, this will raise the ratio of debt to GDP still more. What is the case for persisting with lending ever more and, in the process, taking a larger proportion of the liabilities of the Greek government on to public sector balance sheets? Other countries have achieved the kind of permanent budgetary adjustment that the IMF is looking for in Greece, You're talking about going from a primary deficit - that's the deficit, before interest payments on the debt are considered - of 4-5% of GDP in 2010 to a primary surplus of around 10% of GDP. If that's not going to happen, Dumas says Greece will suffer more from prolonging the agony. The country owes about 325 billion euros and has an annual gross domestic product of about €225 billion. Why spend seven hours behind closed doors, only to decide to wait and see? Threats are only worth making if those making the threats could actually carry them out How can you revitalise Greece? Every intervention so far has pretended that the crisis is one of liquidity, which can be solved by making loans to the troubled banks and governments in question.
Fiffigheten är stor i Eurokrisen Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker, the head of the eurozone group of finance ministers said Mrs Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy have stressed such involvement should be voluntary, but that private creditors should "show solidarity". Ett förslag är att privata ägare av grekiska statsobligationer frivilligt ska gå med på att förlänga sin utlåning till landet när den grekiska statsskulden förfaller. Istället för pengar i handen ska de privata långivarna alltså acceptera en nytryckt obligation. - Man vill att det ska kallas frivilligt. Eurokrisen: Om Du hör att Din granne har tagit anbudet att få pengarna om några år i stället, tror Du då att han, eller hon, har gjort det frivilligt eller har varit utsatt för påtryckningar? Could Greek default equal Lehman's bust? Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy became the latest in a series of EU leaders to cite the so-called Vienna Initiative as a template for how private creditors might agree to roll over Greece’s debts. The more gentle plans for private-sector contribution involve Greece’s creditors agreeing to buy new Greek bonds once their old bonds mature. But the new bonds would surely have coupons well-below the current stratospheric market yields for long-term Greek debt. The ratings agencies have all said this is almost certain to be considered a default. “The original promise to bondholders didn’t involve a commitment to reinvest the proceeds of those bonds at a non-market rate,” said David Riley, managing director at Fitch Ratings. But consider the differences, and the Vienna initiative appears more like a metaphor than an actual template for solving the Greek dilemma. The initiative was mainly a commitment by Western banks to keep capital in their subsidiaries in Romania, Hungary, Serbia, Latvia and Bosnia and Herzegovina and maintain loan volumes in those countries. The banks were not asked to finance specific loans or sovereign debts at below-market rates; in fact, significant amounts of bank liquidity in these subsidiaries lay idle, showing that banks had the flexibility to decide if and whether their money should be lent. The bail-out strategy that rescued Europe’s peripheral economies is proving insufficient. French banks had the most exposure, at $65 billion French banks had the most exposure, at $65 billion, the bulk of which was in the form of debt issued by the Greek government, Greek banks and corporations. --- Whenever a big bank becomes insolvent, the Chancellor is faced with a stark choice. EU:s räddningsfond för krisländer måste byggas ut kraftigt. Det säger nu Nout Wellink, styrelseledamot i ECB. The humiliation of Greece The pain might have been endurable if it had worked. A year after Greek Bail-out I (worth 110bn euros) Greece has seen industrial production slump by 11%. Unemployment is up to 16%. The number of Greeks out of work is up 40% from a year earlier. And the debt mountain has ballooned - heading towards 153% of GDP. Man vinner tid, sägs det. Kanske man kan skjuta upp kraschen till efter nästa val? Men under tiden lider det grekiska folket under en åtstramning som alla förstår inte kommer att lyckas att återställa den grekiska ekonomin. Skrattar bäst som skrattar först om Grekland Logiken i det hela rör sig i federativ riktning... Sch! säger Kohl åt mig när jag tar upp det. The Greek government is losing control of the streets. As protests turn increasingly ugly, the pursuit of a national political consensus becomes even more elusive. This is especially true if all Mr Papandreou, or another leader, can offer is a step back to a discredited approach that involves sacrifices with no evidence of lasting benefits. Mohamed El-Erian, Financial Times A-List 17 June 2011 Svenska Dagbladet åter i EMU-debatten! June 19 De stora pojkarna, stats- och regeringscheferna i Europeiska Rådet, Europeiska Unionens motsvarighet till Sovjetunionens Politbyrå, skall träffas den 23-24 juni. Men Roubini The Nonsense of purely voluntary Bail-ins
If it is done properly, it is no different from the sort of clean debt exchange that the ECB and others abhor; and if it is done on a “voluntary” basis, it creates an even bigger and more unsustainable debt monster for the sovereign. As in the case of Argentina, which attempted a voluntary mega debt exchange at unsustainable market yields—it would ensure that a disorderly default will occur in 2012 or 2013. Thus, claiming that one can apply a voluntary Vienna Initiative to the case of Greece is just a continuation of the big fudge and delusional kicking of the can down the road that the ECB and the official sector has indulged in for over a year now in Greece. Top of pageThe outcome will be a purely voluntary rescheduling, The central problem is a standoff between bailout-shy politicians and instability-fearing central bankers. WarGames: Chicken-Race mellan Berlin och Frankfurt Without mentioning Greece directly, Ms. Merkel said Euro disintegration was never a great risk. "serious consequences" The Financial Times Deutschland writes: Handelsblatt writes: Make no mistake, Dick Cheney is directly threatening war against Iran. Why do I say this? When the European politicians who are managing the sovereign debt crisis bailed out Greece, Ireland and Portugal WarGames: Chicken-Race mellan Berlin och Frankfurt Tyskland och Frankrike har "funnit en lösning" i frågan om den privata sektorns deltagande i stödet för Grekland. "Vi skulle vilja ha ett deltagande från privata kreditgivare på frivillig basis. Detta bör arbetas fram tillsammas med ECB. Det bör inte vara någon dispyt med ECB om detta", sade Angela Merkel. Deltagande från den privata sektorn måste vara frivilligt, uppger Sarkozy enligt Reuters. Uppgörelsen ska gå i linje med det så kallade Wien-initiativet, där bankerna accepterade att rulla över lån till länder i Östeuropa under finanskrisen 2009. Andes Borg å ena och å den andra sidan om eurokrisen The Nonsense of purely voluntary Bail-ins
"There is no need for private-sector involvement," ECB executive board member Jürgen Stark told reporters Neither Frankfurt nor Berlin is backing down. On Friday, Germany's parliament approved a motion that private bond holders and the IMF bear partial responsibility for any further aid to Greece, putting more pressure on Chancellor Angela Merkel's government to pursue the very measures that Mr. Stark resists. Mr. Stark didn't specifically address Mr. Schäuble's position. But he warned government officials not to assume that the ECB would continue to support Greek banks in the event of a restructuring. Such a scenario "prevents us from continuing to accept Greek bonds as collateral," Mr. Stark said, advising officials to "know what they're talking about" when it comes to the implications of a Greek restructuring. “the central bank equivalent of nuclear deterrence “We have to insist on the participation of the private sector,” As politicians try to find a plan by June 24 that would share the cost of a new rescue with bondholders, Trichet yesterday ruled out the Frankfurt-based ECB setting an example with its own assets. While the bank has said it could accept a plan in which investors voluntarily agree to buy Greek bonds to replace maturing debt, President Trichet said the ECB has no intention of rolling over its own Greek holdings. IMF has blinked in the battle over how - and when - to agree a second European rescue package for Greece. All the eurozone ministers have to do is agree in principle to fill the funding gap in the Greek economic programme, which they will now do on Sunday. Whenever a big bank becomes insolvent, the Chancellor is faced with a stark choice. IMF's statutes stipulate that the organization can only lend a country money if it is certain that the state will be able to meet its payment obligations for the next 12 months. Many experts believe that a Greek default could have horrendous consequences, with some even fearing it would cause the breakup of the euro zone and lead to turmoil in the financial markets. The fallout might even exceed the impact of the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy in 2008, which triggered the global financial crisis. Jean-Claude Trichet is apoplectic at the loose talk of debt restructuring. A compelling justification for Mr Trichet’s antipathy to any form of soft Greek debt restructuring is how little this would improve Greece’s fundamental fiscal policy challenge. Stuck in the straitjacket of euro membership, Greece is having to make a Herculean effort to restore fiscal sustainability, without the ability to resort to exchange rate devaluation and so boost exports as a much-needed offset to the adverse effects of fiscal consolidation. The writer is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute Apoplectic ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet yesterday gave his first signal endorsing measures to encourage investors to buy new Greek bonds to replace maturing securities. While Trichet said he’s against imposing losses on creditors, he indicated he’d approve of financial institutions maintaining their level of outstanding credit. “That is not a default,” he said at an event in Montreal late yesterday. While Europe is preoccupied with a possible restructuring of Greece's debt, huge risks lurk elsewhere The EU's Fisheries Commissioner, Greece's Maria Damanaki, warned that
- The scenario of removing Greece from the euro is now on the table. Greek leaders meeting in Athens have failed to agree Mr Papandreou, a Socialist, had been trying to secure cross-party agreement for further cuts It’s now clear that Greece, Ireland and Portugal can’t and won’t repay their debts in full, although Spain might manage to tough it out Eurogroup’s Jean-Claude Juncker has just lobbed this hand grenade into the market place EUROGROUP’S JUNCKER SAYS IF PAYMENT OF IMF TRANCHE OF AID TO GREECE IN JUNE NOT BE OPERATIONALLY POSSIBLE, EUROPEANS EXPECTED BY IMF TO STEP IN. Now, the IMF will only release the next tranche of its funding for Greece if the source of Greece’s funding needs over the next twelve months is clear. Which it isn’t. “Events in Greece have brought the euro area to a crossroads: The confusing debate about “reprofiling” or soft restructuring pays testimony to the sheer incompetence of eurozone’s finance ministers, The underlying economics of the /Euro/crises are clear Greece Greece runs a massive trade deficit with the rest of Europe, which just makes the problems worse. Unemployment in Greece is now 15% and rising. And everyone can clearly see that the current loan facility will run out at the beginning of 2010, yet Greece will need at least another 30 billion euros right after that. Skrattar bäst som skrattar först om Grekland The total exposure of foreign banks to the struggling quartet of Greek 10-year yield reached a eurozone record, of 12.9%, Greece’s increasing jobless rate may become a “bomb in the foundations of society” “The economic problem will at some point be solved but the social problems are getting continually more toxic,” Chrisochoides said in an interview on March 22 in Athens. “At the moment we have a society that is patient and dealing with the problem, but we have to show people that what we are doing is working.” Greece’s unemployment rate surged to a record 14.8 percent in December, making it the second highest after Spain in the 17- member euro region FT Deutschland noted that the Greek rating was now below that of Egypt, and on the same level as that of Angola. Frankfurter Allgemeine writes in a comment that Greece was a clear-cut case for a debt restructuring. At the time of the Greek bailout, the real question was: Belgium is really two ethnic groups that share a king and high levels of debt (about €470 billion [$630 billion], 100%of gross domestic product), and little else. On 11 May 1931, the failure of a European bank – Austria’s Credit-Anstalt – was a pivotal event in the ensuing global financial crisis and the Great Depression. Egentligen strider det mot EU:s grundlag att låta EMU-länderna gå i borgen för varandras skulder, men finansmarknaderna har länge satsat på att unionen ändå aldrig skulle låga ett euroland gå i konkurs. Men det är just vad EEAG:s sjuhövdade råd av tunga europeiska ekonomiprofessorer föreslår som krislösning. /The Group is chaired by Jan-Egbert Sturm and includes Giancarlo Corsetti and John Hassler (Stockholm University/ DI 9/3 2011 * Vi vill särskilt framhäva riskerna för makroekonomiska störningar som förvärras av fall i tillgångspriser, t.ex. på aktier eller fastigheter The European Economic Advisory Group (EEAG), a group of leading European economists, has warned that Greece may need another bailout by 2013 at the latest.
creditors might have to write off more than 30 percent of their loans. The EEAG, which is collectively responsible for each chapter in this report, consists of a team of seven economists from seven European countries. This year, the Group is chaired by Jan-Egbert Sturm (KOF Swiss Economic Institute, ETH Zurich) and includes Giancarlo Corsetti (University of Cambridge), Michael Devereux (University of Oxford), John Hassler (Stockholm University)... The unemployment rate in Greece jumped to 13.5 percent Unemployment stung young people hardest, with the jobless rate reaching 35 percent in the 15-24 age group and 18 percent for those aged 25 to 34. Greece has become the world's riskiest borrower in the fourth quarter of 2010, surpassing Venezuela, De som försöker skuldbelägga Europeiska centralbankens låga ränta för den ohållbara låneexpansionen har en poäng. --- Peter Wolodarski försvarar EMU om Irland och Grekland What were investors thinking when they bought Greek 10-year bonds at 26 basis points over Bunds in 2007, below the spread between British Columbia and Quebec? If you strip out the humbug, the Greek package allows banks and funds to shift roughly €150bn of liabilities onto EU governments, or the European Central Bank, or the IMF. It is in reality a bail-out for investors. Greece to run a budget deficit for 2010 greater than the 8.1 percent it agreed to as part of a rescue package, Greece may ultimately be forced to restructure its mountain of debt with foreign investors. RE: Restructure = Let the creditors take losses China wants to impose a deflationary adjustment on the US, The international community has postponed bank stress tests for Greece The international community has postponed bank stress tests for Greece to give the country breathing space as Athens prepares to test the success of its European roadshow last week by raising more money in the capital markets. The so-called “troika” – the International Monetary Fund, European Commission and European Central Bank – has agreed with Greece’s central bank to delay testing the solvency of the country’s struggling bank sector by one month to the end of October. Is the crisis coming back? Greece Greek lenders are covering their funding gap through loans from the European Central Bank (ECB), which reached a record €96bn in July. The green light from Brussels failed to offer any respite for Greek bonds. Spreads on 10-year Greek debt rose to 835 basis points over German debt. They are trading once again at the crisis levels of early May, before the EU launched its "shock and awe" rescue and the ECB began purchasing Greek bonds. Full textThe Euro Crisis The entire country is in the grip of a depression. Everything seems to be going downhill. The spiral is continuing unabated, and there is no clear way out. The worse part, however, is the fact that hardly anyone still hopes that things will improve one day. Full textIn May, the EU and the IMF agreed to loan Greece 110bn euros over three years. ... Grekland går inte i konkurs den 13 september Hungary's IMF revolt augurs ill for Greece Det största problemet: Alan Beattie bevakar internationell handel för Financial times. Franska, spanska och tyska banker skulle kunna få hjälp från den nyskapade europeiska räddningsfonden. Alla kan inte exportera sig ur krisen, för då är det ingen som köper. The snag with Germany’s idea (insolvency rules)is that it goes too far The Folly of Currency Pegs Moody's cuts Greece to junk Moody's cut its rating on Greek debt four notches to Ba1, a speculative rating that the firm says connotes "questionable" credit quality. ECB Buying Up Greek Bonds Grekland, Spanien och grunderna i macro Greece is implementing a sweeping austerity plan. Slightly more than two weeks ago, eurozone leaders and the International Monetary Fund unveiled a €750bn ($920bn) package that, in effect, guarantees that Greece will be funded for the next couple of years. That pot is also big enough to cover Portugal and Spain, if those countries needed aid. So far, so good. But what is crucially unclear is what happens after that point. So the worry for Greek bondholders today is that they are now becoming subordinate to the IMF and the eurozone, but without any guarantee that this bail-out will work. Hence the concern that this game will eventually result in a restructuring. If so, just how big might any haircuts be? Greece budget deficit worse than thought The Greek government has brought in a string of draconian spending cuts and tax rises demanded by European peers and the International Monetary Fund as part of its bail-out last year. The measures succeeded in bringing the government's deficit down from 15.4% of GDP in 2009, but still fell well short of what was hoped. Greece's two-year cost of borrowing rose further in bond markets to more than 23% per annum following the data release. The level indicates that markets believe the country's debts are unmanageable and Athens is very likely to impose losses on bondholders when its existing bail-out loans expire in 2013. Greece - A year after agreeing a €110bn European Union and IMF bail-out and economic reform plan, times are hard.
If Mr Papandreou fails, policymakers in other European capitals and Washington will face a dilemma – whether to give Greece another chance or let the country fall into the abyss of default, with potentially devastating consequences on financial systems and economic confidence across the eurozone. outsiders imposing all these things hasn’t pushed through all the reforms that we needed,” says Alexandra Papalexopoulou, a director at Titan, an Athens-based cement company. “If we don’t proceed as soon as possible witDe nödlån som nu ges till Grekland, Irland och senast Portugal av IMF, ECB och EU-kommissionen ger ett visst andrum En skuldrekonstruktion i till exempel Grekland innebär inte bara en stor risk för det grekiska banksystemet, utan för stora delar av banksystemet i hela euroområdet. En ”blodpropp” på ett ställe kan drabba hela cirkulationen. Greklands stora statsskuld på 350 miljarder euro ligger till 80 procent placerad utanför landet. Enligt en färsk beräkning från det tyska institutet IMK och Deutsche Bank skulle inställda betalningar på Greklands statsskuld drabba Tyskland med över 40 miljarder euro, varar 25 miljarder i tyska banker. Läget torde vara likartat i Frankrike och flera andra länder. Ett försök att lösa den grekiska skuldkrisen med en rekonstruktion skulle kunna utlösa nya kriser i andra länder, till exempel i Spanien, med snabbt stigande räntor som följd. Och tyska banker innehar även de stora mängder spanska statspapper. SNS, Pagrotsky och Greklands återhämtning IMF-rapport varnar Ländernas konkurrenskraft har också betydelse för valutans stabilitet.
DN huvudledare 7/5 2010 The European Cental Bank's bailout package is just a $1 trillion fig leaf covering the problem and Deutsche-Bank-Chef Ackermann: Greece won’t repay all of its debt We do not know quite what Deutsche Bank is up to, but the bank has been very forthright, about the Greek situation. In a German talk show, Josef Ackerman said that Greece won’t repay all of its debt, and that rescheduling was very likely .But he also added that there is no alternative to helping Greece because otherwise the eurozone would have melted down. The best course of action to take is to push through austerity now, and if this is not enough, to restructure and to reschedule debt, according to Der Spiegel. Finanskrisens härjningar. Kronans svängningar. Greklands ekonomiska kaos. Greek crisis exposes default lines running through the eurozone IMFs dödsdom över Grekland och EU:s räddningspaket Grekpaketet handlar om bankstöd och imperiebyggande. Ett intressant inlägg kommer från tankesmedjan Bruegel i Bryssel. I rapporten ”Two crises, two responses” skriver ekonomerna André Sapir och Jean Pisani-Ferry om stora och viktiga skillnader mellan de krisdrabbade ekonomierna. Som exempel tar de Grekland och Spanien, två länder med olika typer av problem som varken kan eller bör lösas på samma sätt. Varför reagerade ingen i Bryssel? Mrs Merkel made a moving plea to the Bundestag to support the €110bn (£93bn) rescue for Greece. To Angela Merkel and Germany’s political class, the state elections in North-Rhine Westphalia are infinitely more important than the future of the eurozone. The “c” word: Contagion A bail-out for Greece is just the beginning Given the huge fiscal retrenchment now planned and the absence of exchange rate or monetary policy offsets, Greece is likely to find itself in a prolonged slump. Would structural reform do the trick? Not unless it delivers a huge fall in nominal unit labour costs, since Greece will need a prolonged surge in net exports to offset the fiscal tightening. The alternative would be a huge expansion in the financial deficit of the Greek private sector. That seems inconceivable. The crises now unfolding confirm the wisdom of those who saw the euro as a highly risky venture. These shocks are not that surprising. On the contrary, they could have been expected. The fear that yoking together such diverse countries would increase tension, rather than reduce it, also appears vindicated: look at the surge of anti-European sentiment inside Germany. How do America and Greece compare? Both nations have lately been running large budget deficits, roughly comparable as a percentage of G.D.P Greece is caught in a trap. Having your own currency, it seems, makes a big difference. Paul Krugman, NYT May 13, 2010 US Dollar Satsa på en hästkur av samma kraft som Lettland! Den grekiska budgetkrisen har nått en kulmen. Från att euron infördes som gemensam valuta har både anhängare och skeptiker sett problemet med att penning- och skattepolitiken inte är helgjutet konstruerad. Penningpolitiken överfördes till europeiska centralbanken medan skattepolitiken hör till medlemsstaternas kompetenssfär. I avsaknad av en gemensam skattepolitik antog man inom EU istället den så kallade stabilitets- och tillväxtpakten. Pakten har en ensidig inriktning på offentliga finanser. Andra aspekter som finansiell stabilitet och konkurrenskraft finns bara med indirekt. Redan idag kan vi se kraven – och önskemålen – på att EU-samarbetet fördjupas. Här bör Sverige vara med fullt ut. Annars kommer Sverige att förlora än mer i inflytande. Framöver ställer krisen frågan om en valutaunion är möjlig utan gemensam finanspolitik.Gunnar Jonsson Signerat DN 2010-04-29 Det är målsättningen om ett ständigt fastare förbund - "ever closer union" - som är själva grundbultsfelet med EU. Europe stumbles upon closer union Tio års test av euron visar att domedagsprofetiorna kommit på skam. EMU:s första dödsoffer BBC: In pictures: Greece protests EMU, tre döda och DN manar: Kör hårt And that’s why a devaluation would help Greece — it wouldn’t reduce the need for fiscal adjustment, but it would reduce the costs associated with fiscal adjustment. Vem har rätt? Krugman eller Carl B Hamilton? Den franska storbanken BNP Paribas har en exponering mot grekiska
statsobligationer på 5 miljarder euro (49 miljarder kronor).
European governments are hoping that Greece’s 110 billion-euro bailout will stop a crisis that Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz says threatens the currency’s survival. While Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero dismissed such talk as “complete madness” yesterday, the risk premium on his country’s 10-year bonds rose to 126 basis points today. Spain’s benchmark IBEX Index, the euro region’s worst performer this year after Greece, fell 1 percent, extending yesterday’s 5.4 percent drop. Portugal’s spread increased to 270 basis points. Full textDe övriga euroländernas finansministrar planerar ett möte på söndag för att ta ställning till Acropolis now There comes a moment in many debt crises when events spiral out of control. As panic sets in, bond yields lurch sickeningly upwards and fear spreads to shares and currencies. In September 2008 the failure of once-stellar Lehman Brothers almost brought down the world’s banking system. A decade earlier, Russia’s chaotic default on its sovereign debt rocked the credit markets, felling Long Term Capital Management, a hugely profitable American hedge fund. When the unthinkable suddenly becomes the inevitable, without pausing in the realm of the improbable, then you have contagion. The Greek crisis—or more properly Europe’s sovereign-debt crisis—looks dangerously close to that FotnotAcopcalypse now ECB Drops Minimum Rating Threshold for Greek Collateral: QE Next? When the ECB Governing Council meets on May 6, the bank's head, Jean-Claude Trichet, will have to explain the U-turn on collateral rules and lay out the organization's future strategy. Options include resuming longer-term refinancing operations; cutting rates from 1% and starting quantitative easing by buying government bonds in the secondary market. --- “The unthinkable -- that the ECB would not accept sovereign securities from a member as collateral -- SOME REALLY BAD NEWS FROM GREECE – OPPOSITION DECIDES TO VOTE AGAINST THE DEAL Vem ska i så fall betala den avskrivningen, är det skattebetalarna i euroländerna? – Det ska de som äger grekiska obligationer göra, de som dumdristigt har köpt dem till alltför höga priser och alltför låga räntor. Det gäller då framför allt banker i södra och centrala Europa, säger Åslund. Om ingenting görs åt Grekland illa kvickt går landet i konkurs. I så fall kommer Portugal och Spanien likaså att tvingas ställa in sina betalningar, vilket inte alls är nödvändigt. Då kollapsar en stor del av det europeiska banksystemet. Europa skulle till och med kunna hamna i ny stor depression. Anders Åslund DN Debatt 30/4 2010 Den enda fördelen med den aktuella situationen är att katastrofen är lika monumental som uppenbar. Till att börja med måste Europa sluta att förneka verkligheten och se den i vitögat. Gråt inte för Grekland utan för Lettland, som varit ett dygdemönster. Grekland: Tiden börjar rinna ut The EU-IMF "therapy" of deflation for Greece repeats the catastrophic errors of Chancellor Heinrich Bruning in the early 1930s and must lead to a depression, he said. --- Den 9 maj är det val i Tysklands största delstat Nordrhein-Westfalen med 18 miljoner invånare. --- Framöver ställer krisen frågan om en valutaunion är möjlig utan gemensam finanspolitik. Det är målsättningen om ett ständigt fastare förbund - "ever closer union" - som är själva grundbultsfelet med EU. Rolf Englund Barometerns website 7/6 2005 What about an outright default? How bad could it be? So what are the possible scenarios? Can Greece find an exit strategy or is it just forestalling disaster? Spaniens externa nettoskuld är fem gånger så stor som Greklands.Läs mer här This is going to be the most important week in the 11-year history of Europe’s monetary union. Under existing law Greece cannot be pushed out. In fact Greece cannot leave the eurozone voluntarily, without having to leave the EU as well. In any case, it is smarter for Greece to default inside the eurozone than outside. So what happens if the Bundestag blocks the aid? Greece will simply default, and this will put several German and French banks that hold large chunks of Greek sovereign and private debt at risk. Germany Friday will be remembered as the day the euro needed rescuing. 77 milarder kronor However, Greece had to pay 430 basis points above German rates to borrow one-year money. Deflation is the only way Greece can effectively tackle its debt problems, International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn was quoted on Monday as saying. CNBC 12 Apr 2010 "The only effective remedy that remains is deflation," Strauss-Kahn told Austrian magazine profil in an interview. European governments offered Greece a rescue package worth as much as 45 billion euros ($61 billion) in three-year loans at below-market interest rates. "Tyskland vek sig för trycket - vi ska inte lura oss själva att sådana lån är något annat än subventioner", sa Frank Schaeffler, biträdande finanstalesman för regeringskoalitionspartiet FDP. What if the Greek loans cannot be repaid? Will they just be rolled over? Down the road, other questions will come into play. What if Greece - deep in recession - cannot meet its target to reduce its deficit by 4% this year? What if the economy goes into freefall? What if countries sense they may not get their money back? If it appeared others might want rescuing, when would the German taxpayer cry "enough"? Can the single currency prosper without fiscal union - a step with profound political implications? Can the eurozone survive when its economies are so different? Greece debt to foreign banks, total: 302.6 Billion dollars Germany - 43.2 Varför frågar ingen Birgitta Ohlsson om Grekland och EMU? As I write, it appears that EU experts have agreed on a package of €20bn to €25bn at 350 points above the IMF tariff, or 5pc. Greece must squeeze a further 13pc of GDP from the budget to stabilise debt costs by 2012, and do so during a slump when every euro of tightening leads to €1.5 to €2 in lost demand. "The risk is of a viscious downward cycle," Mr Johnson, the IMF's former chief economist, wrote in the Huffington Post.EU officials react with outrage to comparisons with Argentina, but as Mr Johnson says "Greece is far more indebted, is much less competitive in global markets, and needs a greater fiscal and wage adjustment". Yet let us be honest. This is not a bail-out for Greece. It is a bail-out for European creditors that account for most of Greece's €391bn external debt (163pc of GDP). As such it is the first line of defence against greater sums at risk across Club Med. The EU rescue shifts the debacle onto taxpayers in order to prevent a systemic crisis, just like the bank bail-outs after the Lehman failure. The question is whether German Landesbanken with wafer-thin capital ratios can withstand a second crisis after losing so much already on US subprime debt. This has echoes of Credit Anstalt, the Austrian bank that collapsed in June 1931, exposing the underlying rot of Europe's banks. It set off an earthquake across Germany and Central Europe. Contagion spread back into the Anglosphere, snuffing out the recovery of early 1931. The global financial order came crashing down. The Great Depression began in earnest. Time to Reread the History of Austria's Creditanstalt in 1931... Leaders of the 16 eurozone nations have agreed to fund up to 30 bn euros in emergency loans for Greece Greece has to find around 11.5 bn euros by next month to meet its financial obligations. Det finns ändå anledning till viss optimism. Redan nästa vecka måste Grekland försöka förlänga en del av landets stora statslån. Under de fem kommande veckorna behöver Aten låna motsvarande hundra miljarder kronor för att täcka det stora underskottet i den grekiska statsbudgeten DN är optimister om Grekland, EU och EMU Germany's Bundesbank has fired a warning shot at Chancellor Angela Merkel, attacking the joint EU-IMF rescue plan for Greece as Barclays Capital said any rescue would have to be at least €40bn-€45bn to restore confidence and provide Greece the funding it needs to buy time for reform. Paul Krugman: "Grekland kommer att lämna euron" E24 6/5 2010 "Jag hoppas att man, någonstans djupt nere i källarvalven hos ECB och det grekiska finansdepartementet, börja tänka det otänkbara. För detta fruktansvärda utfall börjar se bättre ut än alternativen", skriver Paul Krugman. --- Many commentators now believe that Greece will end up restructuring its debt — a euphemism for partial repudiation.I agree. But the reasoning seems to stop there, which is wrong. In effect, the consensus that Greece will end up defaulting is probably too optimistic. I’m growing increasingly convinced that Greece will end up leaving the euro, too. Paul Krugman 6/5 2010 Any announcement of plans to leave the euro would, as Eichengreen points out, trigger disastrous bank runs. I hope that somewhere, deep in the bowels of the ECB and the Greek Ministry of Finance, people are thinking about the unthinkable. Because this awful outcome is starting to look better than the alternatives. The key thing to understand about Greece’s predicament is that Until recently, being a member of the euro zone seemed like a good thing for Greece, bringing with it cheap loans and large inflows of capital. But those capital inflows also led to inflation — and when the music stopped, Greece found itself with costs and prices way out of line with Europe’s big economies. Over time, Greek prices will have to come back down. And that means that unlike postwar America, which inflated away part of its debt, Greece will see its debt burden worsened by deflation. Greece could alleviate some of its problems by leaving the euro, and devaluing. But it’s hard to see how Greece could do that without triggering a catastrophic run on its banking system. Indeed, worried depositors have already begun pulling cash out of Greek banks. I’ve always been a mild euroskeptic — As I’ve tried to point out in a number of posts, Spain’s troubles are not, despite what you may have read, the result of fiscal irresponsibility.
IMF:s förre chefsekonom, MIT-professorn Simon Johnson, och hans professorskollega Peter Boone visar i en lång artikel på ekonomibloggen Baselinescenario.com att Greklands ekonomiska situation är långt värre än vad den var i Argentina under åren 1991-2001, det vill säga fram till det att Argentina ställde in sina betalningar. Per Lindvall SvD/e24 2010-04-08 Marknadens oro för en betalningsinställelse är uppenbart rimlig oavsett om ECB:s Trichet vägrar se det på sin karta utan fortsätter tillåta att grekiska statsobligationer används som panter i banken. The Baseline Scenario8/4 2010 Greek Bonds Drop a Seventh Day, Spread Widens The yield on the 10-year Greek bond rose 30 basis points to 7.54 percent, as of 10:57 a.m. in London. The cost of insuring against a default on Greek government bonds rose above that for Iceland for the first time. Bloomberg April 8 2010 Why the Greek rescue isn’t going to plan Markets around the world have yet to recognise the complexity of this situation. When they do, it will also become apparent that Greece is part of a wider, and historically unfamiliar phenomenon – that of a simultaneous and large disruption to the balance sheet of many industrial countries. Tighten your seat belts. Mohamed El-Erian is chief executive and co-chief investment officer of Pimco Capital flight squeezes Greek banks George Papaconstantinou, finance minister, said on Wednesday that the banks “have asked for access to the remaining funds of the support plan” – a $37bn government package that was put together during the 2008 global credit crunch. Many savers had chosen to move funds to their banks’ subsidiaries outside Greece, including Cyprus and Luxembourg, rather than switch to foreign institutions. Others had transferred funds to local subsidiaries of foreign banks, the banker added. Mr. Van Rompuy and many investors fear a sovereign default would start a chain reaction of panic and failures, perhaps breaking up the euro zone. Other fragile European banks would suffer. Other weak sovereign borrowers might follow, intentionally or not, creating a cascade of traumatic defaults. For months, politicians like Mr. Van Rompuy have been trying to convince a doubtful world that a Greek default is unthinkable. A change would cause a shock, but on reflection investors might actually welcome a more realistic approach. The Greek problem is important for the world, because the country has a particularly acute case of a common financial disease: debts that are too large to be serviced by its current incomes The leverage-fed global bubble in asset prices has left many individuals, some companies and a daunting list of countries at credible risk of default whenever interest rates rise from their current ultralow levels. The United States and the Britain are certainly on the list. Grekiska statspapper "massakreras" i en marknad med starkt säljtryck och dålig likviditet. ![]() I am willing to risk two predictions. The Greek government has demonstrated that it can still borrow at a rate of about 6 per cent but if you do the maths on the public debt dynamics, as I did recently, it would be hard to arrive at any other scenario than an eventual default. The adjustment effort needed to prevent a debt explosion is extremely large. The Nordic countries achieved adjustment on a similar scale during the 1980s and 1990s, but they had two advantages over Greece. They did it in a different global environment; but more crucially they were, in part, able to devalue and improve their competitiveness. As a member of a large monetary union Greece can improve its competitiveness only through relative disinflation against the eurozone average, which in effect means through deflation. But as the French economist Jacques Delpla* has pointed out, this will invariably produce a debt-deflation dynamic in the Greek private sector of the kind described by the economist Irving Fisher during the 1930s. Last Monday, when Athens tried to sell 5bn euros' of bonds, it was forced to offer an interest rate barely changed from the previous week. It's still costing Greece twice as much to borrow as it does Germany. For a country that is meant to have the financial backing of the most powerful economies in Europe and the IMF, this is hardly encouraging. So now the nub of the problem is that every cent of savings that is squeezed out of the hapless Greek public sector will have to be spent paying this level of interest. BBC World News business presenter Jamie Robertson, 5 April 2010 Nu är problemet att Papandreou, eller vad han heter, den socialist som är statsminister i Grekland efter att ha fått sin utbildning i Sverige, har sagt att han vill att Grekland skall kunna låna till samma ränta som Tyskland gör. Southern Europe's problem is essentially a competitiveness problem, and not a fiscal one, The fix was in. The deal done. As I sat at breakfast that morning a thought nagged away at me. I could not think of a serious economist who did not believe the euro was a flawed currency. It was the morning after the night before and I was riding an elevator to the 13th floor in the European Commission. Two men smiled at each other and one said "I hear Greece has been saved". "Couldn't be better," beamed the other, before disappearing into the vastness of bureaucracy. It felt like news shared from a distant front: "Bastogne has been relieved" or "Malta is holding out". Gavin Hewitt, the BBC's Europe editor blog 26 March 2010
The French president also got written into the draft a phrase that mentioned "the economic government of the European Union". It was the Irish, initially, that choked on the words. The Dutch and the British were not far behind. Officials emerged to say there had been "asymmetrical translation" and the word "government" was replaced by "governance". In truth the Germans and French mean different things by the words "economic governance". The Germans want a tougher regulatory regime that won't tolerate cheats. The French want to see closer economic co-operation. The IMF should impose default on Greece to end the charade Suitably, she was wearing a medallion of a Spanish silver coin dating from 1580, celebrating Philip II’s third default in eighteen years. These magnificent defaults did not stop Spain launching the Armada against Elizabethan England a little later, or attempting to roll back the Protestant Reformation in a last maniacal attempt to impose Habsburg-Papal absolutism on free thinkers, but it did cripple some great European banking dynasties — about 20 in all. A country can in theory deflate its way back to competitiveness by an `internal devaluation’, ie relative wage cuts, in this case by 20pc to 25pc. Benito Mussolini cut wages by 20pc or so in 1928 when Italy returned to Gold with his Lira Forte policy, but he had Fascist controls on the unions, and Camicie Nere to assist. Italy was not in any case facing the aftermath of a property boom. It may not be possible for a country to execute such a policy when it already has a public debt above 100pc of GDP, or in Greece’s case nearing 130pc by next year. Debt dynamics take over. The policy leads to a self-feeding spiral in compound interest. This will become evident very soon if — as some economists predict — Greece’s economy contracts by 4pc to 5pc this year. This Time is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly Read: “Lending to the Borrower From Hell: Debt Default In the Age of Phillip II, 1556-1598? by Maucio Drelichman and Hans-Joachim Voth for details on why the banks kept lending after each default. I am aware of the commitment of Europe’s elite to the success of the European project. Prime Minister George Papandreou’s government must raise about 53 billion euros this year, Failure to do so could spark a new round of the fiscal crisis and trigger the use of the aid plan to help Greece finance its budget deficit by standing behind the nation’s debt crafted by EU leaders in Brussels March 25. The euro’s big fat failed wedding The creators of the euro were like parents fixing an arranged marriage. They knew that they were locking together countries with very different economies and political cultures. But they hoped that, over time, the new partners would grow together and form a genuine union. Once Europeans were using the same notes and coins, they would feel how much they had in common, develop shared loyalties and deepen their political union. Finally, the designers of the single currency were hoping for a third form of convergence, between elite and popular opinion. They knew that in certain crucial countries, in particular Germany, the public did not share the political elite’s enthusiasm for the creation of the euro. But they hoped that, in time, ordinary people would embrace the new single European currency. It is also now obvious that countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal are struggling to compete with the much more productive German economy. In a currency union they cannot devalue their way out of trouble. The only alternative solution on offer is a long and painful period of austerity to reduce their costs through cuts in wages and living standards. When the euro was launched, leading German politicians used to argue, with evident relish, that monetary union would eventually require political union. The Greek crisis was precisely the sort of event that was expected to force the pace. But, faced with a defining crisis, Ms Merkel’s government is avoiding airy talk of political union – preferring instead to force harsh economic medicine down the throats of the reluctant Greeks. Greece Borrows After EU Deal The aspect that puzzled me most was the announcement that a rescue would come in the form of a loan at market interest rates. Greece would have to be cut off from the capital markets; in such a situation it is difficult to imagine that a loan from the EU – at prohibitively high interest rates – would solve any problems. The Greek problem is not simply access to capital – which has not been a problem during its crisis so far – but the interest rates the country has to pay for its debt The Greek government recently announced an austerity package that aims to shave 4 percentage points off the deficit-to-gross domestic product ratio. This will result in a deep and probably long recession. When a country adopts an austerity package of such magnitude it needs some form of relief, simply to make it through the recession. This would normally come either through devaluation or from a low-interest loan, usually from the International Monetary Fund, or ideally both. Greece will have neither. Nu är problemet att Papandreou, eller vad han heter, den socialist som är statsminister i Grekland efter att ha fått sin utbildning i Sverige, har sagt att han vill att Grekland skall kunna låna till samma ränta som Tyskland gör. For Greece to ‘leave the Euro’ involves the launch of a new curreny. From scratch. People talk as if the drachma lives on The Eurozone is not a fixed-exchange rate system, it’s a common currency area. The drachma has been abolished. This parrot is deceased. The Irish Economy March 27th, 2010 David McWilliams has advocated in his SBP column that Ireland should choose to ’leave the Euro’. Please explain, in great detail (this is not a transition-year project) precisely |