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Euron efter Greklands "räddning" den 21 februari 2012Keep Talking Greece - Greek News in English, Blog Eurokrisen handlar om bankerna
French and German banks reduced their exposures to these markets by some 30-40 percent
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- Den stora risken var att Grekland skulle utlösa en kris i italienska, franska och tyska banker.
Grekpaketet handlar om bankstöd och imperiebyggande
If Greek (and Portuguese and Irish, etc.) debt returned a modest premium (2-3%) over German or French debt, then the spread was worth it to the bank managers and shareholders. After all, the regulators had said there was no risk; it was easy money.
As I have written about at length, the European banking system is a systemic disaster. The regulators ENCOURAGED (there is no graphic strong enough to express the outrageousness of such a design) their banks to buy government debt and allowed them to leverage that debt by up to 40 times. This was on the theory that no sovereign (European) government could actually default, so therefore there was no need to actually reserve capital against the possibility of a default. And if Greek (and Portuguese and Irish, etc.) debt returned a modest premium (2-3%) over German or French debt, then the spread was worth it to the bank managers and shareholders. After all, the regulators had said there was no risk; it was easy money. Even economists can figure out how to make money at a "modest spread" on 40 times leverage with no risk. Just ask those clever guys at Long Term Capital. And if the spread was 2%? Then back up the truck and give me some more. 100% on your capital per year with no risk? Where do I sign up? And thus the EU found itself in a credit crisis when Greek debt started to rise in risk, having already been decimated by the subprime crisis. Someone finally noticed that Greece could not hope to pay off its debt. However, German and French banks had so much Greek (and other peripheral-country) debt that if Greece defaulted they would be bankrupt. That would of course force the respective governments to capitalize their banks to keep their countries afloat. But then that would call into question their own credit worthiness as we are talking a great deal of money. And if Greece were allowed to default, then what would that imply about other peripheral-country debt? The word contagion slipped into the economic lexicon as Merkel and Sarkozy (and many other European leaders) openly worried that if Greece were allowed (or forced) to exit the euro, the entire euro experiment might be called into question. It all went wrong in 2010. The crisis in Greece was taken, wrongly, as a sign that all governments had better slash spending and deficits right away.
Interndevalvering (Ådals-metoden) Acropolis Adieu med Mireille Mathieu och Angela Merkel Bloomberg News sued the ECB Europe’s Plan C for Greece Is No Better Than Plans A or B Europe’s leaders have reached Plan C in their efforts to rescue Greece. Unfortunately, it lacks a crucial element also absent in Plans A and B: adequate debt relief. The agreement between euro-area finance ministers and the International Monetary Fund is welcome and overdue. It provides much-needed support for a Greek government that has taken enormous political risks to meet the conditions for aid. It also puts an end to weeks of bickering between Europe and the IMF over how to cover Greece’s funding shortfall -- a delay that had threatened to undermine faith in the bailout program, even among Greeks who believe in making the changes and sacrifices demanded. The deal, however, doesn’t do enough to address the biggest issue: a Greek government debt burden that, at about 170 percent of gross domestic product, remains unbearable under any reasonable scenario. The agreement assumes that Greece will largely grow its way out of the problem, reducing its debt to less than 110 percent of GDP by 2022 even as it endures the crushing austerity required to sustain a budget surplus of 4 percent of GDP. In other words, this is just the latest in a long line of stopgap measures to fend off the kind of disorderly default and euro exit that could trigger contagion in the much larger economies of Spain and Italy. In a characteristically outraged comment, Holger Steltzner writes in Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that Wolfgang Schauble can no longer claim the rescue of Greece did not cost any money.
The illusionists keep on pretending that Greece could ever repay its debt. He also makes the point that the bond repurchasing programme is unlikely to succeed, as the market price is likely to be too low. The joker in all of this is the ECB, which will ultimately foot the entire bill through monetary financing – another taboo term like debt restructuring. He says it will be interesting to see whether Angela Merkel can really keep the lid on all of this until the elections. Euro-zone finance ministers meeting in Brussels this week have been unable to reach an agreement with IMF
Orsaken till Greklands depressionsliknande nedgång verkar att huvudsakligen bero på åtstramningspolitiken
Det pågår en omorientering av de ekonomiska analyserna av Europas problem. Den förda åtstramningspolitiken börjar alltmer ifrågasättas. Ett exempel på detta är IMF med Christine Lagarde i spetsen. A visibly angered Mrs Lagarde, the managing director of the IMF, shook her head and rolled her eyes Daily Telegraph och Financial Times 13 November 2012 Very nice pic Euroländer och ECB oense om skuldlättnader Enligt källor till WSJ ska ECB vara berett att sälja sina grekiska statsobligationer för samma pris som de köptes för. Detta skulle ge Grekland lättnader på 8 miljarder euro, men det täcker bara till en liten del av Greklands finansieringsbehov. Enligt ECB-företrädare måste merparten av arbetet göras av Europas regeringar. Detta upplägg skulle vidare kräva att euroländerna lånar mer pengar till Grekland för att landet ska kunna köpa tillbaka sina obligationer, vilket euroländerna tidigare har vägrat att göra. Plats för skratt om Grekland
Francois Hollande will travel to Berlin with leaders for crisis talks on Tuesday
On Monday, the French president met with Jim Yong Kim, head of the World Bank, and IMF chief Christine Lagarde, as well as leaders of the World Trade Organisation and the OECD, to discuss solutions for Greece, including a debt buy-back. The group will talk about the ideas with Ms Merkel on Tuesday. Greece's international creditors have proposed that the country receive another debt writedown, SPIEGEL has learned that the troika of inspectors from the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund is proposing a further debt cut for Greece, in a move that would for the first time cost taxpayers money because public creditors, meaning EU governments, would be called on to write off a portion of their claims. With two weeks to go before the EU has to decide on how to fund Greece Spiegel Online reports the chancellor cannot sell OSI to the Bundestag in an election year, while bankers fear a return of market chaos, as such a process would invariably coincide with a messy political process. (Delaying OSI for another year, while possible, would significantly increase the risk of a major political backlash, as the Greek debt will have increased, and GDP decreased, by then. We continue to see that Greece will end up defaulting on all its debt – except that of the IMF, the ECB, and domestic residents. The political delay of OSI ensures that the eurozone crisis will continue for much longer than necessary. The purpose of a debt buyback programme is merely to signal action when there is none. Debt buybacks don’t work, as market prices adjust quickly.) Germany was now ready to accept a two-year extension of the Greek programme, En av få vedertagna sanningar inom statsvetenskapen att demokratier inte går i krig med varandra, oavsett om de går samman i politiska unioner eller inte.
Anders Borg tror att Grekland kan komma att tvingas lämna eurozonen Ur Metro 3 september 2012
Snipers, Commandos to Welcome Merkel in Greece Armageddon i Grekland den 18-19 Oktober: Grekland, Tyskland och IMF vid avgrundens rand
The debate over whether the U.S.’s largest banks are too big is heating up. Men hade det inte varit bra om Grekland i stället för att misskötas från Aten hade styrts från Bryssel? De som fortfarande tror att eurokrisen handlar om lata greker som inte vill göra rätt för sig Europa har slagit in på en kamikazekurs som ser ut att leda mot att euron bryts sönder. If the Greek people get their euros out of the system, then there is very little pain of exit. Rumours – detailed by the bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi-UFJ – that a Greek exit is now imminent.
Levelling out competitiveness in the euro area will be costly Grekland besparades både kommunismen och uppgörelsen med den; Glömt är också att Grekland efter kriget gick igenom ett inbördeskrig mellan den politiska högern och vänstern som intill denna dag kluvit samhället, en spricka som med hjälp av bland annat massiva euro-krediter kunnat spacklas över, men som kan spricka upp igen. Europa säger till Grekland: om ni inte sparar och reformerar kastar vi ut er. Grekland svarar: varsågod! Gör det då! Men ni vågar inte. Vi är inte ens ense om vad Europa egentligen är. Hur stort är det? Var ligger dess gränser? The charismatic /han kör en BMW-MC till parlamentet/ Greek leftist who could determine the fate of the euro "We are not at all an anti-European force. We are fighting to save social cohesion in Europe. * His party Syriza, or Radical Left Coalition, came a shock second place in the May 6 election Born four days after the fall of Greece's military dictatorship in July 1974, Tsipras became leader of the Left Coalition in 2008 and was elected to parliament in 2009. Peter Wolodarski, PJ Anders Linder och Grekland Mohamed A. El-Erian om Grekland, Mercedes, Staten och Kapitalet Grekland, Mercedes, Staten och Kapitalet Den tyska regeringens talesperson sa att landet har en plikt att förbereda sig för en eventuell grekisk exit från euroområdet. Charismatic, eloquent and defiant, the leader of Greece's Radical Left party, Alexis Tsipras, Greek leftist Alexis Tsipras delivers 'message of friendship' to Germans The leader of Greece's radical left coalition, Alexis Tsipras, has appealed to Germans to show solidarity towards the embattled, debt-ridden Greeks, On the Berlin leg of a charm offensive to win over European politicians, the 37-year old, whose Syriza coalition has a good chance of securing victory at a repeat election on 17 June, stressed that he wanted to work with the Germans to "find a solution to our joint problem". Alexis Tsipras, described as 'Greece’s Che Guevara' in the German press, on his charm offensive in Berlin. Grekiska vänsterledaren: It’s Spain Fears about contagion from Greece have pushed Madrid’s stock market to 2003 levels and its premium to borrow over Germany to euro-era records. The clock is now showing one minute to midnight. Greece is probably beyond saving. The German government says a Greek euro exit would be expensive, but could be handled Bagdad Bob: There are no Americans in Bagdad Europe’s hapless politicians, having asserted that exit from the single currency was impossible, But exit was never impossible, never easy and even when it was publicly unthinkable central banks would have been negligent not to have put in place contingency plans. That is why even though Greece is a small part of the eurozone, a Greek exit is an existential threat to it. Once a path to exit has been defined, business and individuals will have a template for understanding the consequences of further unwinding. Hapless If Greece goes: The eurozone either is an irrevocable currency union or it is not. If countries in difficulty leave, it is not. It is then an exceptionally rigid fixed-currency system. A Greek exit from the euro area has the potential to be Om att äta kakan, ha den kvar, eller sälja den på kredit till Grekland Top of page - News - Start page Article 66 of the Treaty can be invoked to stop Greek outflows Article 66 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union says the freedom of capital movement can be suspended but only in relation to third countries. The article can be invoked to stop Greek outflows to Switzerland, but not to Germany, at least not legally. That is one of the reasons why a eurozone exit cannot be legally accomplished inside the EU. Would it surprise you to know that Europe’s taxpayers have provided Undantagstillstånd
The extraordinary thing is that there hasn't yet been a bank run across the Mediterranean
Bank Run
Men försöket att rädda statusen som skatteparadis som försäkrar ryska oligarkers rikedomar genom att stjäla gamla cypriotiska farmödrars sparpengar har förståeligt nog orsakat våldsam vrede på ön. Det är alltså inte konstigt att de försöker att ta ut allt de äger. Bankerna kommer att hållas stängda till och med i morgon torsdag. Fram till dess kommer den cypriotiska regeringen och trojkan att vara under stor press att ta fram ett nytt avtal som försäkrar cyprioterna om att banker är säkra att bevara sina besparingar hos. För om alla cyprioter begär sina pengar på en gång så kollapsar bankerna, och med dem Cypern. What does a guarantee mean?
They are thus vulnerable to destabilising and self-fulfilling bank runs. But the counter-argument is that of moral hazard; depositors have no incentive to choose between banks on grounds of riskiness, and bank executives can take risks knowing that they are underwritten by the insurance scheme. Some jurisdictions tried to offset this by limiting the guarantee; such was the case in Britain up until 2007, when only 90% of deposits between £2000 and £35000 were covered. But the Northern Rock panic showed that even the prospect of a 10% loss caused panic so the scheme was quickly extended. A deposit insurance scheme is designed to cope with the failure of an individual bank. But it may cause the entire banking system to become riskier. In countries which can print their own currencies, governments can guarantee deposits in nominal terms, but not in real ones. The low interest rates that have propped up the banking system have eaten away at the purchasing power of savings;
That is on a par with the lower Cypriot levy. De som i dag har pengar i banker på Cypern kommer, om euroministrarna får som dom vill, att få upp till 9,9 procent av pengarna konfiskerade.
HTTP://BLOGS.REUTERS.COM/FELIX-SALMON/2013/03/19/A-MUCH-BETTER-ALTERNATIVE-FOR-CYPRUS/ We know that it’s workable because it has been put forward by none other than Lee Buchheit and for decades, in dozens of sovereign contexts, every time that Lee Buchheit has said something can be done, he’s been absolutely right. Here’s the short, three-page paper: it’s called Walking Back from Cyprus, and it’s authored by Buchheit, the godfather of sovereign debt restructuring, and his frequent collaborator, Mitu Gulati of Duke University.Their plan is simple:
Second, term out everybody else by five years, or ten if they prefer. That’s it! That’s the whole plan, and it’s kinda genius. Cyprus rescue breaks all the rules Reform of how to mend broken banks, which has been negotiated globally and in Europe since the Crash of 2007-8, has been based on two central principles.
The logic behind these tenets is simple: financial institutions ought to be sophisticated enough and informed enough to assess the risks of lending to a bank, and therefore deserve to be punished when their judgement is awry; most of the rest of us can't possibly know if our high street banks are making reckless gambles. Genom att även konfiskera småsparares pengar upphävs en princip som gällt sedan den amerikanska depressionen på 30-talet: Europe is risking a bank run
If one wanted to feed the political mood of insurrection in southern Europe, this was the way to do it.
As in the case of Greece, the finance ministers said: “Don’t worry, this is a unique situation”.
IMF and the German government want to reduce the size of any loan to Cyprus by forcing it to “bail in” the creditors of Cypriot banks,
Kommentar av Rolf Englund:
IMF warns eurozone on capital flight
The IMF has warned that unless the eurozone resolves its capital crisis, European banks’ balance sheets will contract severely, further damaging growth and pushing unemployment beyond already record highs in the region. In its global financial stability report, the IMF concluded that capital flight from the eurozone’s periphery to the bloc’s core, driven by fears of a break-up of the currency union, had sparked “extreme fragmentation” of the euro area’s funding markets. The fund said this was causing renewed pressure for banks to shrink their balance sheets, particularly those in countries with fiscal woes. In the end, market processes will overwhelm them. Greek depositors are already protecting themselves against the consequences of a Greek default and euro exit by shifting the risk onto European taxpayers.
Roger Bootle, Telegraph 24 June 2012 The central bank of Spain just released the net capital outflow numbers and they are disastrous. The Spanish ten year now yields a 6.81% and their thirty year is yielding 7.34%. Spain has now set up a fund for its regions to tap of $22.6 billion and this, in my opinion, will not even be close to what is asked for or required with the regions needing some $50-75 billion in assistance in my estimation. Investerare flyttade ut den rekordstora summan 219,8 miljarder euro, Det är en dramatisk förändring jämfört med samma period förra året, då Spanien hade ett kapitalinflöde på 22,5 miljarder euro.
Grekland, Portugal och Spanien hör inte hemma i eurosamarbetet. The Euro Crisis Is Back From Vacation Here is a guide to the new season’s most intriguing (and terrifying) story lines. New York Times, 28 August 2012 Imagine you have a bank account in Greece and you hear a rumor that your bank may soon switch your money from euros to drachmas, which will be worth a lot less. Most rational people would withdraw their money and deposit it in a German bank. When Spaniards see Greeks heading for the German border, they’ll withdraw, too. And then perhaps thousands of Italians will also. What’s guaranteed to make Europe’s lousy situation even lousier is a run on banks in struggling countries that would precipitate their collapse Det finns en klar risk att den spanska staten själv får svårt med betalningarna och att den plötsligt inte kan låna mer pengar på marknaden. Så riskerar landet att dras ned i en negativ spiral som kan knäcka banksystemet, orsaka en statsbankrutt och leda till att Spanien lämnar den europeiska valutaunionen. De som fortfarande tror att eurokrisen handlar om lata greker som inte vill göra rätt för sig bör titta närmare på det spanska exemplet. Eller det irländska. Europa har slagit in på en kamikazekurs som ser ut att leda mot att euron bryts sönder. Valutaflykten medför en sådan credit crunch att bankerna inte hinner driva in 14 gånger de undandragna beloppen genom uppsagda lån. "Nu har det vänt"
Since late July, yields on Spanish government bonds have fallen more than 200 basis points, while European shares have climbed almost 15 percent and the euro has rallied 10 percent against the dollar. TARGET-2 Imbalances
Target 2 is the mechanism by which money is transferred around the euro area to ensure that each national central bank has sufficient euros to fund its banking system.
The economist who has done the most to raise the profile of this issue is Hans-Werner Sinn, head of the Munich-based Ifo Institute. Germany would lose the thick end of a €1 trillion, he has written, should Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy leave the euro, or around a quarter of GDP. All money systems are a version of Europe’s Target 2, which is merely an interbank payments system for cross border transactions. When contained within countries, nobody even bothers to think about the way the system works. It’s plainly not going to matter, for instance, if a big trade and capital imbalance develops between the north-east of England and the South East, if only because there is a unified banking and fiscal system to intermediate. If there is a sudden rush of deposits out of the North East to the South, it makes no difference to the banks involved; their net position in terms of assets and liabilities is unaffected. But it is certainly true that one way or another – whether through the banking system or the Bundesbank – Germans were always going to be on the hook for all that bad lending. When the debtor borrows too much, the creditor always pays. Germans are therefore being somewhat naïve in making debt mutualisation a red line issue when it comes to solutions. In fact, the debt has already been mutualised. The ECB has been intermediating the risks all along.
Target 2 Outflow The graph only goes up to the end of January, but we know that the phenomenon has got, much, much worse since then. The outflows are compensated for by "target 2" inflows from the European Central Bank, which in turn borrows the money from the eurozone's creditor central banks, in particular the Bundesbank. The flight to safety has prompted a collapse in yields on government bonds in Germany, the US, Switzerland, Sweden, and to some extent the UK too. The foreign investor withdraws his money from the Spanish or Italian bank and deposits it with an apparently "safer" German bank, which in turn lends the money to the Bundesbank, from where it finds its way back through the ECB via the target 2 system to the original Spanish or Italian bank. It sounds like Alice in Wonderland, but in fact is no different from what happens in the money system within national borders. If there is a sudden outflow of capital from, say, Lancashire, the Bank of England will call on the consequent surplus accumulating elsewhere to plug the gap so as to ensure that the Lancashire banking system can continue to fund itself. What makes it different in the eurozone is that the same thing is happening between countries. Within countries, there is a general sense of in it together, backed by a common fiscal framework, that makes it tolerable. But when it is between countries unsupported by fiscal transfers, it obviously becomes more problematic. Deposits made through German banks are in essence funding Spanish and Italian assets on an ever expanding scale. Target Target 2 flows
Eurozone leaders may be nearing a “break the glass” moment: Det som förvånar mig mest är att grekerna inte har stormat bankerna. Det är märkligt. Greece One Sunday in October 2008, Alistair Darling flew back from Washington to find Britain on the brink of banking meltdown. Back from the Brink: 1000 Days at Number 11 ECB, Lender of last resort, current account
Data published by Spain’s central bank showed Bank of Spain data showed a net 66.2 billion euros was sent abroad last month, "What we need first of all is for the Spanish government to tell us its restructuring plans for Bankia, Europe’s leaders can’t save their currency union without figuring out a way to salvage the region’s banks. Spain is a perfect place to start. “Can anyone in the US imagine ever designing a system so fundamentally flawed? It’s insane! “In the last couple days I have spent a bit of time trying to find any legal construct which would allow the ELA to be turned off for a member country. I can't. “The reality is that European Monetary System was broken from the start. It just took a crisis to expose the flaws. Why the euro is doomed to fall apart: Capital flight has cut foreign holdings of Spanish debt from 50pc to 37pc since January. Barclays Capital says Spain's housing crash is only half way through. Home prices will have to fall another 20pc to clear an overhang of one million excess properties. That will bleed banks to death. The Centre for European Policy Studies puts likely write-offs at €270bn. Much of the loss would land on the state, as in Ireland. The risk is that Spain's public debt will surge above 100pc of GDP. As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, If, as seems likely, the Commission says quite soon that it is full steam ahead to the creation of a pre-funded scheme that would give retail depositors across Europe the confidence that their savings up to 100,000 euros are safe, that might well be a good thing in the long term.
"The moment they start saying, 'Don't worry, your money will be safe,' "The moment they start saying, 'Don't worry, your money will be safe,' is the moment you should withdraw your money from the bank," Mezzadri was born in Argentina, and even though he has lived in Spain since he was 3, he is haunted by his native country's 2001 economic collapse. When Spain's housing and job markets collapsed, the cajas were hit hardest because they specialized in construction and real estate lending, and their investments were not as diversified as those of national or global banks. A single currency can be maintained if no-one worries if they're holding German, Spanish or Greek euros. It probably is about time to judge the euro zone as a failed idea, Finance alone Bankia, formed in a seven-way merger in 2010, was meant to be the government’s flagship project to consolidate the savings banks, or cajas. Instead, its forced rescue has prompted broader concerns among investors about whether Spain can still finance alone the rescue of such banks. As a result, some analysts are warning that the outflow of money from Spain — so far relatively limited and led by foreign investors — could turn into a full-fledged bank run. It is only a trickle so far, and not nearly enough to constitute a classic bank run. But But for European policy makers and economists, the possibility of mini-runs on banks spreading from Greece to other, bigger countries like Spain — with 1 trillion euros, or $1.25 trillion, in bank deposits — poses a much more serious risk. In Greece, more than two years into its financial crisis, nearly one-third of the country’s bank deposits have already left the country. There has been no such exodus in Spain so far, where over the last year about 4.3 percent of bank deposits, or 41 billion euros, the equivalent of about $51 billion, has been transferred out of the country. The trend worries European officials. The idea of euro zone-wide deposit insurance has been around for a long time, but it faces the obvious political hurdle of German taxpayer resistance to backing 2.8 trillion euros worth of deposits in risky countries like Spain and Italy, as well as those that have already been bailed out — Greece, Ireland and Portugal. The first rule of ELA is you don’t talk about ELA. Under ELA, the 17 national central banks in the euro area are able to provide emergency liquidity to banks that can’t put up collateral acceptable to the ECB. The risk is borne by the central bank in question, ensuring any losses stay within the country concerned and aren’t shared across all euro members, known as the euro system. Each ELA loan requires the assent of the ECB’s 23-member Governing Council and carries a penalty interest rate, though the terms are never made public. Owen estimates that euro-area central banks are currently on the hook for about 150 billion euros ($189 billion) of ELA loans. Despite efforts at official reassurance, no one really knows the consequences of a Greek exit from the euro zone, However cavalierly some European officials talk of “managing” a Greek exit, the political and financial costs would represent a fundamental challenge to the European Union and its credibility, and the point of no return may be approaching faster than anyone anticipated. The stresses on the system are now so great that to contain panic and contagion, while protecting countries too big to bail out, would require political choices and financial commitments that many countries, including Germany, Finland and the Netherlands, seem unlikely to make As European officials try to send strong messages to Greek voters about the consequences of an exit, a continuing run on Greek banks — a panic that threatened to spread to Spain last week — could force the European Central Bank to jettison Greece anyway by refusing to replace the euros fleeing the country for lack of proper collateral.Some put it simply, like economist Rolf Englund who campaigned against the euro back in 2003. Greklands fyra största affärsbanker får kapitaltillskott från eurozonens krisfond EFSF. EFSF skickade redan i april, inom ramen för det andra stödprogrammet till krislandet Grekland, över totalt 25 miljarder euro till en grekisk stabilitetsfond för finanssektorn. Det är ur denna pott som de grekiska bankerna nu får stöd på 18 miljarder euro (163 miljarder kronor). – Med dessa EFSF-obligationer kan vi återigen finansiera oss hos Europeiska centralbanken (ECB), säger en bankkälla till Reuters. Emergency Liquidity Assistance (ELA) These zombie banks are being kept alive with help from the so-called Emergency Liquidity Assistance (ELA) -- a rescue aid program managed by head of Greece's central bank, George Provopoulos. At every session of the ECB Governing Council, he has to have these special allocations approved. Last Tuesday, the ceiling for the amount of aid that Provopoulos is allowed to give his banks was even raised again, from roughly €90 billion to €100 billion. But the Council is harboring increasing doubts about this permanent subsidy. RE: The Ultimate Article about EMU and the Eurocrisis A bank run is now happening within the eurozone A great deal of attention is being heaped on the possibility of a bank run across the eurozone. Would Northern Rock or Lehman Brothers have survived if they had had more capital? What the markets are saying is that they are afraid Spain may ultimately go the same way as Greece, Greece’s exit from the euro Adopting the euro is effectively irreversible National households and firms would shift deposits to other Eurozone banks producing a system-wide bank run. "Ett Ja är för evigt, ett Nej kan man ändra" An 'Orderly' Greek Exit Is Not Possible That the Greek economy is in a straitjacket and cannot progress while in the euro is not argued; that it is structurally unfit for it to be a member of a currency union with (say) Germany and Holland is also irrefutable. But the latter is no different to the state of affairs that existed back in 2001 when Greece entered the euro. The original sin was then, now it’s time to suffer the consequence. – Vi vet alla nu, och vi visste alla då, att Grekland fuskade med sin statistik
Greece will have to leave EMU whoever is elected Spain and Italy ECB In an elaborate payment system that began after the May 6 election that brought down the Greek government, “Why are we doing it like this?” Mr. Mayer said. “Because we’re Europe.” About three-quarters of Greece’s debt, or €182 billion, is now effectively owned either by the Union, the E.C.B. or the I.M.F., according to estimates by the investment bank UBS. Inte bra för Grekland - Tyskarna kanske inte känner sig välkomna i Grekland? Picture: Empty sunbeds on the island of Lesbos. Om Grekland faller – vilket verkar troligt – kan mycket väl Spanien, Portugal, Italien och Irland stå på tur. We have no idea whether the euro survives, Following the downgrade of 16 Spanish banks by Moody's, the focus in the euro crisis is back on the banking sector. For months now, wealthy individuals in crisis-hit countries have already been moving billions of euros abroad out of fears about the stability of the financial systems in their own countries. Suddenly, it has become easy to see how the euro Greece is experiencing what’s being called a ‘‘bank jog’’ — a somewhat slow-motion bank run, as more and more depositors pull out their cash in anticipation of a possible Greek exit from the euro. Europe’s central bank is, in effect, financing this bank run by lending Greece the necessary euros; if and (probably) when the central bank decides it can lend no more, Greece will be forced to abandon the euro and issue its own currency again. This demonstration that the euro is, in fact, reversible would lead, in turn, to runs on Spanish and Italian banks. Once again the European Central Bank would have to choose whether to provide open-ended financing; if it were to say no, the euro as a whole would blow up. Italy and, in particular, Spain must be offered hope — an economic environment in which they have some reasonable prospect of emerging from austerity and depression.
Top of page - News - Start page Risken för uttagsruscher är ett av de starkaste argumenten mot att låta Grekland lämna euroområdet. Deposits are fleeing Greek banks at an accelerating pace. The euro area financial market, in all segments and maturities does not function properly, Cross-border banking flows have dried up. Households and firms across the union borrow at rates that depend more on the respective sovereign risk – just look at Spain, today, for example – than on their intrinsic creditworthiness. Interest rate decisions made by the central bank are not able to affect monetary conditions in the desired way in a large part of the euro area. The euro area crisis may have reached a point in which it can hardly be resolved unless the policy authorities are determined to take bold actions. It also requires that the central bank takes more drastic measures to ensure that there is a single monetary policy throughout the euro area, consistently with its mandate. Europe faces a dilemma Those who suggest that markets are now well prepared for such an event and that most of the costs would be borne by the Greek economy seriously underestimate the channels of transmission of systemic crises following a sovereign debt crisis and a bank run Lorenzo Bini Smaghi, a longtime Italian member of the European Central Bank's executive board, has tendered his resignation, according to Bloomberg. A tsunami of capital flight from Greece threatens to overwhelm the authorities, The crisis is replicating the pattern of fixed-exchange ruptures through history. Sweden's bank rescues in the early 1990s – it was not the bail-out that saved Sweden's financial system, the country recovered only by ditching its exchange peg and regaining its freedom of action. Depression buffs will note the parallel with Britain's infamous budget in September 1931. Though few had any inkling at the time, Snowden's austerity drive would soon push British society over the edge. Krugman alltför optimistisk om tidsplanen för Eurodämmerung Kommer långivare och medborgare att vara säkra på att Grekland var ett specialfall? Kommer försiktiga företag och privatpersoner att börja flytta sina pengar från länder som Portugal, Spanien och Italien för säkerhets skull, I stället krävs dramatiska och snabba förändringar i hela eurozonens krishanteringssystem – först obegränsad pengatryckning och utlåning av Europeiska centralbanken (ECB) för att undvika omedelbart sammanbrott. Och därefter möjligen en snabb marsch mot en finanspolitisk union där ännu mer av den politiska makten flyttas till Bryssel, kanske gemensam upplåning med efterföljande fördelning till medlemsländerna. Det är mycket svårt att se hur euroledarna i elfte timmen skulle klara av att enas kring en sådan helomvändning. Bank deposits, /in Greece/ are now being withdrawn at the rate of around 3 bn euros a week Grekland är inget särfall, bara ett extremfall Top of page - News - Start page “Provopoulos told me that of course there’s no panic but there’s great fear which can evolve into panic,” the president said. The risk of a run on Greek banks is “a very serious problem,” Yannis Ioannides, professor of economics at Tufts University in Massachusetts, told Bloomberg Television. He said the European Central Bank needs to guarantee deposits held by the region’s lenders to guard against contagion. “That’s the only way to kill a bank run: not words but deeds.” Banks in downtown in Athens were open as normal today with no signs of unusual activity. Could the euro survive a Greek exit? A Greek departure from the euro, which accelerated withdrawal of cash from banks in other vulnerable economies, would surely create the imperative for yet more emergency ECB lending to banks. And since the European Central Bank and the national central banks insist on lending only in return for collateral, there is a danger that banks would shortly run out of collateral of sufficient quality. Which means the ECB would face the uncomfortable choice of turning off the life support, and see quite a few banks falling over, or lending on the basis of inadequate security - and thus taking significant credit risks with these loans. If you want to know more about this, you could watch "The Great Euro Crash, with Robert Peston" this coming Thursday on BBC2 at 9pm Top of page - News - Start page about 6 billion worth of bonds Greece completed a huge debt restructuring in early March, swapping a nominal amount of 177 billion euros of government paper held by private creditors for new securities as part of its second rescue package. A few investors held out, however, rejecting the swap offer accepted by 96.9 percent of bondholders who suffered a real loss of 75 percent. That left about 6 billion worth of bonds that the Greek government must decide how to handle. "The bond will be paid," the official, who did not want to be named, told Reuters. The International Swaps and Derivatives Association said Friday Expelled from the eurozone, Greece might prove more dangerous to the system than it ever was inside it Eurogroup Chairman Jean-Claude Juncker: Merkel: I Won't Take Part In Pushing Greece Out Of Euro Bagdad Bob: There are no Americans in Bagdad Det är sällan som väntade riskfaktorer som får börsen på fall långsiktigt och ”Jag tror att man överdrivit rädslan lite för att Grekland ska lämna. After Greek voters rejected austerity in last week's election Europe has been searching for a Plan B At the Chancellery in Berlin, the television images from Athens now remind Merkel's advisers Eurodämmerung Sannolikt lämnar Grekland euron Grekerna borde rimligtvis införa en "grekeuro" (inte den komprometterade drachman). Denna kommer att börja gälla med kursen 1:1 men inte vara konvertibel. SEB ansluter sig idag tydligare till det växande lägret av ekonomiska bedömare som påfordrar en mer expansiv politik: världen borde byta krisstrategi. Man behöver inte tro på Keynes teorier från 1930-talet för att se både Kan verkligen krisen för de spanska bankerna bero på de dåliga statsfinanserna i Grekland? Greece’s motorcycling Marxist, Alexis Tsipras rides to parliament on a German-made BMW Michael Portillo makes a very good point about the Greece crisis. Europe must prepare for an exit from the eurozone that has become probable rather than possible. For many countries no plausible exit exists from depression, deflation and despair. With almost all votes counted, Greklands Doomsday Machine for the euro Insurrection Dagens Nyheter förklarar inte hur en sådan politik skulle kunna rädda Grekland, Portugal, Spanien och Italien Konstruktionen kring euron har inte varit fel Det var ett mycket allvarligt misstag att förespråka en svensk anslutning till EMU. Det vore nästan oförskämt att vädja till grekerna om stöd för socialistpartiet Pasok eller det borgerliga Ny demokrati i dagens parlamentsval. Över tre fjärdedelar av grekerna vill behålla euron. Lika många är dock emot räddningspaketen. Pasok och Ny demokrati skulle således bilda en sällsynt svag regering med folkmajoriteten emot sig. Greklands långivare betalar pengar till sig själva, i första hand till stora banker och försäkringsbolag i Västeuropa. Och med intill visshet gränsande sannolikhet kommer Grekland inte heller att kunna betala tillbaka dessa nya lån varför Svarte Petter till sist lär hamna hos de europeiska (läs: tyska) skattebetalarna. Svarte Petter lär till sist lär hamna hos de europeiska (läs: tyska) skattebetalarna Ibland får man intrycket att den politiska klassen har mycket vaga föreställningar om hur ekonomin i flera syd- eller östeuropeiska länder verkligen fungerar Särskilt i Östeuropa framstår dilemmat med exemplarisk tydlighet. I svindlande tempo gick man från brist till överflöd. Bara en hake fanns – i öst fanns inga pengar att köpa varorna från väst för. Alltså försågs östeuropéerna med frikostiga krediter från de nya affärsbanker som också de kom från väst. Men av krediter i en sådan omfattning hade varken stat eller konsument någon erfarenhet. Resultatet är flera ekonomier där fortfarande mycket lite produceras och på en omfattande skuldsättning som enda, vacklande grund. Stora delar av Sydeuropa är ett snarlikt fall. Vad ska de leva av i framtiden? Det verkar ingen veta. Bara att en hel livsstil måste läggas om och att Kina, långt mer än Tyskland, är orsak till detta. EU:s storbanker, diskret uppmuntrade av den politiska klassen, har med spenderbyxorna på lånat ut pengar Grekiska banker rapporterade stora förluster. Fotnot: 50 miljarder euro är drygt 440 miljarder kronor. Greek Banks Post $37 Billion Losses on Debt Restructuring Greece’s four biggest banks, including National Bank of Greece, said they wrote down about 25 billion euros in the combined value of their Greek government bond holdings. Greece’s bank- recapitalization body yesterday got 25 billion euros in a first tranche of funds, or half the total assigned for the purpose, as part of a second bailout by the European Union and International Monetary Fund. The IMF, EU and European Central Bank, the so-called troika of agencies overseeing the Greek financing, plan to help capitalize banks with incentives for private investors. The goal is to bring core tier 1 capital to 9 percent of assets by the end of September. “The whole plan for the future is really not clear because the conditions for the recapitalization are not clear,” Alpha Bank General Manager Artemis Theodoridis said “What we found out in the last few days is that they will not be clear, at least the legal framework, before the elections,” he said. The country is due to hold general elections May 6. Går Tyskland med på att rekapitalisera spanska banker? As Hope Fades in Greece, an Elderly Pensioner Is Driven to Suicide Why wasn’t Greece allowed to restructure its debt two years ago, before its economy contracted by 15 percent, “It was inconvenient for the banks, that is why,” he said. In a March report on the global economy, Weinberg said EU leaders had deliberately delayed Greece’s restructuring, to the detriment of its economy, in order to give banks time to prepare for the hit on their debt holdings. SOU 1999:150 av Torsten Sverenius I den läsvärda boken Ekonomisk Politik. En vänbok till Assar Lindbeck (SNS Förlag 1995) bidrar de båda ekonomerna med ett intressant kapitel kallat Kronförsvaret hösten 1992 - var det värt sitt pris? Den absoluta lejonparten av de totala kostnaderna för Riksbanken åsamkades under den sista veckan före kronans fall, när Riksbanken frångick sin tidigare strategi att försvara kronan genom räntehöjningar för att i stället övergå till direkta interventioner på valutamarknaden. Sedan kommer en anmärkningsvärd mening: Detta strategibyte gav privata aktörer som litat på Riksbankens utfästelser om fast kronkurs möjlighet att gå ur sina valutalån, men öppnade samtidigt möjlighet för utländska och inhemska spekulanter att ta position mot kronan. ![]() A 77-year-old Greek pensioner distraught over his financial state shot himself in the head in the capital’s busy main square near Parliament on Wednesday morning. "a threat not just to Spain but to the whole EU" Greek banks hit by the debt-swap may not need all of the €50bn earmarked by the EU and IMF Jag har gott hopp om att krisen i Euroland kan isoleras till Grekland Is the IMF already assuming Greek failure? Lagarde said, “…the challenges confronting Greece remain significant, IMF godkände ett räddningslån värt 28 miljarder euro till Grekland Private investors may have lost nearly 75% of the present value of their holdings of Greek debt. Slutet är att Grekland på något sätt lämnar eurosamarbetet. Jag kan föreställa mig att ett samhälle som det grekiska klarar sig utan kontanter i någon vecka... Det där är trivialiteter, det går att improvisera...Det är effekterna på den reala ekonomin som är viktiga, resten klarar man upp En ny drachma kommer att falla 40–60 procent, bankerna kollapsar, och jag utgår från att det internationella samfundet fortsätter att stötta Grekland, men i begränsad omfattning. Det som förvånar mig mest är att grekerna inte har stormat bankerna. Det är märkligt. Uttagen har hittills skett i slowmotion. Frågan är vad som händer om det inträffar. "Fasta växelkurser känns för
Sveriges del som ett mindre naturligt val efter händelserna 1992 och den
svåra fortsättningen under 1993. Lars Jonung, ny ordförande för Finanspolitiska Rådet, har en fråga att besvara Lars Jonung var på sin tid, vid kronkursförsvaret 1992, rådgivare åt statsministern, Carl Bildt. Dåvarande riksbankschefen Bengt Dennis: Men han måtte väl ändå ha upplyst Bildt och Wibble om sin uppfattning. Det var hans jobb. Finansmarknaderna har redan underkänt räddningspaketet till Grekland, Tidningskrönikan: Få tror att Grekland klarar sig Grece to exit euro and Portugal likely to be the next to restructure Skuldnedskrivningen motsvarar tre fjärdedelar av vad det står på papperet. Erik Åsbrink, Rolf Englund och Lars Wohlin i TV om eurokrisen Den stora frågan är fortfarande om pengaflödet till Grekland innebär något annat än att köpa tid. Redan i april kommer nästa stora test av hållbarheten i räddningsplanerna. Då arrangeras parlamentsval i landet och utgången är oviss. De två stora partierna som ingår i dagens koalitionsregering, socialistpartiet Pasok och konservativa Ny Demokrati, har fått se sitt väljarstöd haverera under krisperioden. Klockan tickar obönhörligt för Grekland. Prick klockan nio i kväll svensk tid löper erbjudande för en skuldavskrivning ut. President Nixon: Well, I don't give a (expletive deleted) about the lira. If Greece doesn’t have to pay what it owes, why should we? The private sector is being asked to write off more than 70 percent of the face value of their Greek government bonds in return for new debt. This will help Greece meet its debt obligations and enable it to tap into bailout funds from the EU and IMF. It seems likely that other nations burdened by heavy debt loads and high interest rates may seek to follow Greece’s path to debt relief. If Greece doesn’t have to pay what it owes, they might argue, why should we? Anne Krueger fortsätter bara helt lugnt att fråga varför länder inte skulle kunna gå i konkurs
Det vore väl en bättre variant, anförde hon, än att banker lånar ut obegränsat, i vetskapen om att när ett land inte kan betala så får bankerna tillbaka sina pengar ändå – av allmänheten. Då får exempelvis IMF rusa in med räddningspengar, för att de utländska lånen ska kunna betalas av. Sedan får ett lands befolkning några generationer på sig att mödosamt betala av till IMF, medan löner, pensioner och allmän service stryps. Men bankerna har redan fått betalt för länge sedan. Lobbyorganisationen Institute of International Finance, IIF, där Jacob Wallenberg nu är vice ordförande, protesterade – det skulle dämpa låneviljan hos banker, och det skulle inte bli lika lätt för länder att få tillgång till kontanter.
Kanske det är en amerikansk kvinna, Anne O. Kreuger, professor i
nationalekonomi vid Duke University, North Carolina, Världsbankens
chefsekonom 1982-1986, som har formulerat den viktigaste lärdomen
från kommandoekonomins sammanbrott. I en intervju hösten 1990 (DI
24/10) i samband med sitt besök i Stockholm för årets
Ohlin-föreläsningar sade hon: - På 1950- och 1960-talen
underskattade vi nog hur mycket skada en felaktig ekonomisk politik kunde
åstadkomma. The PSI deal has substantial sweeteners; Official creditors will be left to suffer most of the huge additional losses that remain likely on Greece’s still unsustainable debt in future. Greece on brink of default as bond deal falters The International Swaps and Derivatives Association said Friday The high participation rate is only possible through the use of CACs, which will make the offer binding on all holders of Greek-law bonds. Once the CACs are triggered, all €177bn worth of bonds issued under Greek law – or 86 per cent of all Greek debt in private sector hands – will be swapped for a cash payment equivalent to 15 per cent of their original holding. Greece's private sector creditors feel they are being forced into accepting a dramatic writedown of what Greece repays them. To put it another way, if ISDA's decision-making committee rules that Greek CDSs are useless for compensating those who had bought the CDSs to protect themselves from the very events that are happening, then it is difficult to see how any CDS contract written on any sovereign credit would have a value. That, for example, would mean that those who had bought $320bn of protection against default by the Republic of Italy would probably have to write off most of that $320bn, because the insurance contract would be seen to be almost useless. And there would equally be huge losses for those holding $163bn of protection taken out against Spain, $45bn taken out against Ireland, Papanicolaou and his predecessor, Christoforos Sardelis, “The Goldman Sachs deal is a very sexy story between two sinners,” Sardelis, who oversaw the swap as head of Greece’s Public Debt Management Agency from 1999 through 2004, said in an interview. Det har senare visat sig att föredragshållaren hos SNS, som jag skrattade åt, inte bara hade varit Bo Lundgrens grekiska motsvarighet som riksgäldschef, – Vi vet alla nu, och vi visste alla då, att Grekland fuskade med sin statistik Allt fler anser att det inte kommer att räcka och att Grekland måste lämna eurozonen. Sen 2009 har nästan en tredjedel – 28 procent – av privatpersoner och privata företags tillgångar flyttats ut ur Grekland och i säkerhet ibland annat Schweiz.
Fiscal irresponsibility; Greece, but nobody else. Oh, and countries that aren’t on the euro seem able to run large deficits and carry large debts without facing any crises. If you have a printing press you don´t go bankrupt The greatest threat to the euro is that Greece will make a success of default and devaluation. While questions on Greece’s remaining in the euro “have their justification,” Varje gång ett viktigt förfallodatum inträffat, ända sedan euroländerna gav det första nödlånet i maj 2010, - Den stora risken var att Grekland skulle utlösa en kris i italienska, franska och tyska banker. Greklands Default Greek Default If Europe wants to know how Greece's crisis ends Å ena sidan ger loppet Grekland möjlighet att komma i mål som ett annat land. Merkozy borde gå hem och leta i sina glesa bokhyllor efter de tre grekiska tragöderna: Förr eller senare måste Grekland lämna eurozonen. Då kan landet klara sig, efter en låneavskrivning och depreciering av den gamla valutan. Det kan då bli mycket billigt att åka till Grekland och bada. Risken är stor att det nya räddningspaketet också bygger på alltför optimistiska antaganden, This new monetary union is built on hope and on permanent financial support -- and is therefore based on an imbalance of power between the strong and weak. Expecting the Greeks to tighten their belts again is unrealistic. Greece: Dangerous precedent? In the cold light of day, it is not clear which is the more depressing: that successive Greek administrations ever thought it sensible to borrow as much as they did, or that banks and investors thought it wise to lend to them. Those who believe in the pure rationality of markets or of the state may need to re-examine their respective faiths. The governments of the eurozone have said they will not take any interest on their central banks' holdings of Greek bonds till 2020 and will also parlay any profits on their holdings of these bonds into a reduced interest rate on their rescue loans to Greece. These different sacrifices for central-bank holders of the bonds are being made because the central banks wish to maintain the curious fiction that they were not taking risks with their own solvency when purchasing government bonds. They don't want the humiliation of taking direct losses on the bonds and being forced to ask eurozone taxpayers for additional capital to strengthen the ECB's balance sheet. Finally, and to state the bloom' obvious, what we had overnight is an agreement in principle, not a final definitive rescue of Greece. Troligen har inget land i fredstid tvingats ge upp så mycket av sin nationella politiska suveränitet Grekland har också tagit på sig att inom två månader stifta en ny lag som tvingar landet att alltid sätta avbetalningar på statsskulden före alla andra utgifter.
Over the next two months Greece has promised to adopt legislation Greece will be expected to deposit a quarter’s worth of debt-service payments into a “segregated account” that will be monitored by the troika (made up of the commission, the ECB and the IMF). These arrangements may not amount to the budget “commissarr” once threatened by some creditors, but the effect may be pretty much the same. Tyskland vill att en ny budgetkommissionär, utsedd av eurozonen, If too many private lenders opt out, it’s back to the drawing board. That’s only a partial list of what might still derail the agreement. Fitch Cuts Greece, Near-Term Default ‘Highly Likely’ “In Fitch's opinion, the exchange, if completed, would constitute a 'distressed debt exchange' (DDE) in line with its criteria and consequently yesterday's announcements set in motion the agency's process for reviewing Greece's issuer and debt securities ratings,” Fitch said in a statement. Fitch said it would review its stance on Greece again once the debt swap had been completed Grekland skall byta obligationer för 206 milljarder euro Voluntary and thus pass on the cost of reducing their debt to well-heeled bondholders, rather than to retirees and civil servants. It also remains to be seen how many private holders of Greek debt will sign up for the "... as voluntary as a confession to the Spanish Inquisition." The Roman Inquisition was one of several inquisitions conducted under the auspices of the church. Därför lämnar Grekland euron Enligt den nya planen ska de nu skriva av 53,5 av de nominella fordringarna och dessutom acceptera ännu lite lägre kupong på de nya obligationer de får i utbyte mot de gamla. Att döma av vad som framkommit förutsätts 95 procent av långivarna gå med på detta. Det verkar osannolikt men går att lösa genom att införa tvingande klausuler. I så fall utlöses kontrakten på skydd mot betalningsinställelse, vilket tekniskt innebär betalningsinställelse, något som dock inte längre verkar oroa beslutsfattarna alltför mycket. För att få lånet ska Grekland dessutom genomföra ytterligare åtstramningar. Does the October 26 Eurozone deal for Greece qualify as a credit event? Eurointelligence: De nya nödlånen på 130 miljarder euro som eurozonens finansministrar i dag väntas besluta om kommer inte att hjälpa Grekland överhuvudtaget. intervju i tidskriften Der Spiegel QUOTE OF THE DAY, Daily Telegraph briefing 21 februari 2012: I andra EU-länder har det gått bättre. Italien och teknokraten Mario Monti är ett nästan ett skolboksexempel på hur det kan skötas.
Martin Ljung - Vi Ska Klara Av'et Nu är man tvärtom inne på femte året med fallande BNP, vilket visar på behovet av tillväxtfrämjande reformer. ECB har haft huvudrollen i spelet bakom kulisserna. Voluntary a “voluntary” deal Voluntary The writedown, or "haircut", of up to 70% on Greek bonds |